Just wondering...

[Alexander's Horse]

Bah!

Originally posted by StrategicKing2
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The big problem with apolyton players is they play 1 x 1 deity. I just refuse to play any of these settings

Because you don't have the skill to do it

[SuperSneak]

The Diagonosis

As a degreed Psychology graduate, I make the following pronouncement:
Zone players have small penises.
It's the only answer.

[drake]

The big problem with apolyton players is they play 1 x 1 deity. I just refuse to play any of these settings as my time is precious and I can find 100's of other things to do.

Why do I find this really hard to believe

Not a bad theory Sneak, they do seem to have little man aggressive syndrome.

[Robert]

diplo game

Kuja,

Of course Diety 1x1x games are boring if there's no diplomacy and the people are spread over a big world and have to expand for centuries first before they met another civilization.

Pherhaps you should try to play a diplo game with 7 human players. If possible on a limited map (Europe in example) with 'diplo' rules.

Then you'll suddenly find out that civilization is more then a game, it's a 'way of life'
Diplo rules more or less mean that you need to be very good friends with 5 civilizations, have to ensure them about your good meanings, have to give them money and land and much talking, so you can attack the 7th civilization and just take a city or 2.

If you fail to play the diplo game you'll lose the war, since all 6 civilizations will turn against you and invade the land you've stolen, take 50% of the land you already own and occupy it like the allies did in the 2nd world war.

It's ways more fun to put your enemy under so much international pressure so they agree with your terms then just take 30 tanks and walk over him.

In the legendary eurodip game we played 1 or 2 years ago we just played 8 hours per week and we talked over the msgboard about every hour of the day. Posting maps with possible borders, alliances etc. etc.

Heck, why don't we just organize an eurodip reunion ?
Anyone overhere interested in such a game ?
Does anyone still have the euro map ? The scenario settings we used for it ?

CyberShy

[rah]

My apologies Kuja,
After rereading your post, I realize that I may have read too much into it We do get a lot that are very similar. Being subtle here is not the norm.

I only play 1x1x when I'm real desperate, and then wonder why I did, as I'm staring out the window, or falling asleep during the game.

RAH

[Kuja]

Yes CyberShy, I can see how a eurodip game is very different from a regular 1x1x deity game. You don't really have to worry about attacking or making units, just talking a good game and keeping your cities happy. So that kind of game, even though I"ve never done it before, seems a lot more bearable than the other 1x1x deity games.
And Rah, we are that different after all! We both only play 1x1x games when we are desperate. So if you just give us zoners a chance (ahem... some of them I should say) you will realize we aren't that much different from you.

[Robert]

diplo and units

You don't really have to worry about attacking or making units

Well, in fact it's quiet important to have enough units. Your diplomatic treats will be ways more impressive if you have an entire army ready for attack !

[drake]

Yeah, cyber, theres a lot of mis-conceptions about diplo games huh? Though brains are more valuable then brawn in a diplo game, military power certainly comes into play.

Most importantly, diplo games are a thinking mans game....and patience is an essential virtue. (thats where a lot people have a hard time)

[rah]

Kuja, yes I'm sure there are quite a few similarities.
Over the years, we have probably had over 40 players play in our groups. We are always open to have new players join. Usually it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time. (when we have 3 players and need a fourth, since some of us feel that 4 is the optimal number. Enough competition and the turns don't take forever. ) To fall out of the group takes a little work.
You have to either,
1. quit early in games.
2. don't show up after posting that you would. (we do understand exceptions)
3. get bored with playing with us.
4. Consistent SLOW PLAY. (like taking 3 minutes when everyone know you only have 2 units to move, or regularly doing city maint during your turn, checking out the trade advisor for each caravan during your turn, you get the idea)
5. Don't like the settings we play.

Which are usually
2x1x
deity
raging
no city bribe (unit are ok)
No alliances or tech trading. (stealing is encouraged)
small worlds/large continents.

Some people MISTAKENLY refer to the as "RAH" rules, but these are the settings that have evolved for most of the people in our group.

Posting in the Setting Up IP games thread is another good way to get games with a good number of the people here.


Rich

[StrategicKing2]

First off kuja, we only played once, that is under your new name, and then only a few turns before I decided that I did not want to play you any more. State the truth. Furthermore, I am not putting myself in these players league, I am elevating them to my status. I am so far above you now its unimaginable. It would be like a cave man fighting a modern day soldier.(your the cave dweller) You are now, and always have been nothing, a talentless little dweb who does nothing but use the second computer at your side to map the boards. You play newbies for points and occasionally a real player for legitimacy. You have and can conceive of nothing new or original. You are, and always will be the same boring moron that you are today.
This person has changed his name often. He has been run out of Game league for cheating multiple times. If allowed in the players tourny he will cheat there too.

[Kuja]

You know what, rather than dignify your ignorant, uninformed and idiotic statements with a response, I'll just tell you the same thing I told Zylka:

lol... ah... zylka... ever the thorn in my side... jealousy is such a tough pill to swallow isn't it?? May I remind you that I have never been proven to cheat? Despite your constant allegations you could never come up with a single shred of evidence... why is that? maybe because you are looking for something THAT IS NOT THERE! "oh but look at his record (50-4), surely he must be cheating." lol... nobody of those 50 wins was even good enough to hold my jockstrap. And as for you, we dueled to show you my true power and i believe i had trade, feudalism and monarchy all by 3050 BC. Admittedly that was probably the luckiest game of my life, but you still saw for your own eyes that I do not and did not cheat. Oh, and as for being kicked out of gameleague "multiple times", i was never forcibly removed by kwang. the only time i left gameleague was on my own choice so I could get away from your constant harassment. But guess what, I'm not running anymore

Zylka found it in his heart to still be my zonefriend, can't you???

[Eyes_Of_Night]

Yes strategicking, you are at the pinnacle of your power. How can I claim perfection in light of you? Your game is at such a high level that you play games with drfell to work on trade and learn how it works (I know, he told me when you guys were playing). Who cares if you can't play any of the settings, who cares if you don't know how trade works, you are perfect. You are our 8 time gameleague champion.

[Rasputin]

wha tthe hell is gameleague, so many come here annouinciong they are gameleagues champs, do we invite them here to challenge us ?? but when they do come here, they refusee to paly our settings and want us to paly theirs, if we goto game elague i quite expect to play whatever settings they use there, but here at aoplyton respect our righ tto paly the game the waty we like and if you challenge us play our settings ....

[Kuja]

gameleague.megaultra.com

[SlowwHand]

Which is dead, and now it's sewage seems to be spilling over in the form of Kujo, Strat, and...others.

The OWL's, consisting of Suas, Cavebear, and others have been away.
Hopefully they will make their appearance in MP.