Tech Tree Stupidity!!!

[SlowwHand]

What is the bottom line of your magnificient strategy?
I'm a simple guy, nothing on your level, so can you be more succinct?
Delay on Monarchy, so you can open huts, or avoid huts until after Monarchy ?
I know it's got to be one of those two.
I puzzled it out that far.

Berzerker, I hope to hell you're writing this information down.
Maybe we can all improve, if we try to be more like Strat.

[Rasputin]

Just cant understand why the designers would design that into the game, especially the bit where your choices are suddenly limited after you make a dsiscovery

[bravelaker1000]

Well i have been screwed by many a hut on the path to monarcy or going for something else. The bottom line is what you want to do, me i go for all the huts i can and if i get screwed i dont worry about it i try to keep my tech down and hopefully it will be offered the next time around. Hopefully these issues will be addressed in civ 3 but even if they arent what can you do

[Berzerker]

Rah, I got stuck with Isaac Newton's - not all that bad since the city building it was my capitol already with Colossus and Copernicus. But since this is a tribe game I don't expect that wonder to help as much as A Smith's.

Markus said that some techs require a second "pre-req" not specifically on the tree (or something like that). He can explain it better than me.

As for seeing a tech you passed up for a couple turns disappear, I think all techs not chosen for 2 turns must go off the list. But the path to Monarchy best exemplifies this problem. There is no logical reason why sometimes you can make a straight shot for Monarchy while other times you get stuck researching 1 or even 2 techs off that tree. But I have played a number of mp hotseat games and noticed that nearly all the civs end up with the same pattern.

[rah]

Gee getting stuck with that in your SSC, things could be worse

If it's a tribe game, I'm sure there will be enough caravans to make up the cash difference.

Again, it adds spice to the game, but it should be random and not predetermined.

RAH

[War4ever]

tonight i ran into the same problem.... i couldnt' research invention for three tech choices..... However i did effectively take mikes theos and leos.... not too mention i was about to build SOL.....

But i almost didnt make it to mono first because of my delay. Then again you could say that i got to mono and leos first becasue of the "not wanted " delay to invention

Depending on what you select, your given options..... nothing worse than 7 choices one turn and 1 choice the next

Civ is a strange game ........

[Hydey]

I suffer from much Tech Tree Stupidity but I am getting better.

[rah]

War4ever, as far as I'm concerned, your example is the best reason for not making all available. It makes you think, and make you have to modify a stratagy as you play. The alternative is the mindlless robot moving through the tech tree. Any moron could do that. And in your case, you seem to have made the right decisions when you got pimped.

But again, I wish it was random and it wouldn't pimp you two selections in a row.

The other night, I had the prereqs for around 12 techs, and was only offered one tech to research, map making. Oh well.

RAH

[War4ever]

Rah i see your point...... but in large player games it becomes a real problem. I don't like randomness..... i like a hardlined pattern. However as much as i hate taking five techs to monarchy.... its better than people researching too far up one tech line....

it does add some fun to the game especially on icq phone when you hear the other lad ranting about his ****ty tech choices

[rah]

In a large player game it's even more fun. If everyone had to take an extra tech, which ones did they take? Will they take advantage of the extra tech or spend their time whining about it. It makes every game different. But I do wish you couldn't get pimped twice in a row. That would minimize the disadvantage.

You of all people, I didn't expect to fall in the mindless robot camp.

Rich
Always fun yanking your chain.

[War4ever]

Robot...... i doubt it.... we have played too many times and each game is different ... u know this....check the saves....... as for being screwed twice or three times in a row...... its killer in close games but makes no difference in games where one has the lead which i generally find myself in