I Give Up!!!

[Berzerker]

I just subbed in a 2 on 2 game and started a second one against Markus and Eyes. The first game was such a blowout we agreed to start a new one since the original team left leaving Kuja and I as subs. Both Markus and Eyes had 18-20 cities while Kuja and I had about 6 each at around 2400 bc. What in the hell is going on??? I know they had better terrain than us, but c'mon!!! I give up

[Alexander's Horse]

When are you going to come back and finish all those games you started with the Aussie group? We put ourselves out for you.


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CASE CLOSED!

[Berzerker]

Well, either I play people I can compete with or just quit the darn game. I'll be back to play with you guys real soon...

[Alexander's Horse]

Good, because if you don't show up soon we'll canibalise the saves i.e. continue the games without you


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CASE CLOSED!

[GNGSpam]

20 cities by 2400 BC?

How?

[finbar]

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20 cities by 2400 BC?

How?
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Um ... they're very ... clever.

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[Hydey]

Yes they are clever,
I wish I was as clever as them
If I was I would help others to be as clever and then we could all play at such a high level.

[Hydey]

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I'll be back to play with you guys real soon...
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None of us are clever enough to have 20 cities by 2400 bc, some are lucky to have 2 cities

[markusf]

You forgot to mention we also had mikes and leos built

First game i did a lot better, i had 25 cities and 9 settlars. I sort of just stoped building after 2300 bc. I believe i only had a 10 tech lead on you guys

[GNGSpam]

Must have been 2x2x on one of those "Duel maps"

20 cities by 2400 bc is an impossibility on 1x1x random or world map

[markusf]

cavebear made the med 4 player map..

20 cities by 2400 bc on 1x 1x is not impossible.
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[drake]

Anything that involves creativity or originality you can count eyes out of no doubt.

If being clever means repeating the same exact routine over and over, I'm a monkeys uncle

*yawn*
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[GNGSpam]

Mark, if you have time, could you do 20 cities on 1x1x by 2400 for me and put it on a save? Just so I could see

[markusf]

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Mark, if you have time, could you do 20 cities on 1x1x by 2400 for me and put it on a save? Just so I could see
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no

it requires that you get a lot of tribes. Even if you did your empire would collaspe because you aren't in monarchy. But it certainly is possible. I can usually get about 8 or 9 cities at this point.. building more then that actually hurts you more then it helps. So i just use the extra settlars to build roads, till i get monarchy.

ps. I have gotten 12 tribes in a row before with one horse on 1x 1x, and my best 2x game was 21 cities at 3050 bc.
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[cavebear]

Well, as the mapmaker in that game, I know how they started anyway. I can't say what settings they chose, but unless they randomized my map, no one started out next to any specials.

Each team had a continent to themselves, so there was no danger of being found quickly by an opponent. They probably capitalized on that.

My guess would be that they divided up the tech research, met early to trade techs, and built cities with no need to defend them. They wouldn't have even needed to waste time or units trying to find the other civs.

Marcus, Eyes - Do I have it about right?