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    Aussie civ groups split over issues:-HELP

    The once mighty Aussie group has split over :

    1/ War in Simul
    2/ unit bribing
    3/ cheat calls
    4/ finbars spelling checks
    5/ Hydey's Drinking

    I call on the united civ nations to help this fine group of civvers work out there differences.

    Help us please,
    your friend HYDEY
    <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Hydey (edited February 07, 2001).]</font>
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

    Hydey the no-limits man.
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  • #2
    ROTFLMAO! But a question...
    Why is number 5 a problem
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #3
      I think we'll need some more details to help y'all out.

      I think the war in simul thing can be resolved by moving to turn order during wars. Also you might want to make it so that you declare war a turn in advance before you can attack (no sneak attacks), then go by turn order if a lower color declares war on a higher, or by reverse turn order if a higher color declares war on a lower.

      Re unit bribing: this should always be assumed to be allowed. City bribing is another thing.

      "Cheat calls"?

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      • #4
        My solutions are as follows:
        1. Don't care.
        2. Bribe away.
        3. Duel with sabres at dawn.
        4. Ignore him or just type "Rolling Stones Sux" into the King Chat over and over and over...
        5. Give me some.

        <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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        </font><font size=1>Originally posted by Hydey on 02-07-2001 08:46 AM</font>
        The once mighty Aussie group has split over :

        1/ War in Simul
        2/ unit bribing
        3/ cheat calls
        4/ finbars spelling checks
        5/ Hydey's Drinking

        I call on the united civ nations to help this fine group of civvers work out there differences.

        Help us please,
        your friend HYDEY
        <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Hydey (edited February 07, 2001).]</font>
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        • #5
          My advice to anyone who wants to buy into this is don't


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          • #6
            <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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            </font><font size=1>Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 02-07-2001 04:18 PM</font>
            My advice to anyone who wants to buy into this is don't



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            Indeed Alexanders Horse.... not very convenient.

            Elendil hit the nail right on the head.

            Please see the TWO Aussie threads regarding these contoversies: Another Happy Evening of MP - two threads.

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            • #7
              Deity, you broke the rules, you're out. End of story. How other groups and individuals prefer to play is irrelevant.

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              • #8
                <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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                </font><font size=1>Originally posted by Ming on 02-07-2001 09:14 AM</font>
                ROTFLMAO! But a question...
                Why is number 5 a problem
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                Because he dribbles into his keyboard and it jams the game!

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                • #9
                  <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
                  <img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
                  </font><font size=1>Originally posted by Curumbor Elendil on 02-07-2001 02:19 PM</font>
                  I think we'll need some more details to help y'all out.

                  I think the war in simul thing can be resolved by moving to turn order during wars. Also you might want to make it so that you declare war a turn in advance before you can attack (no sneak attacks), then go by turn order if a lower color declares war on a higher, or by reverse turn order if a higher color declares war on a lower.
                  <img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

                  This little stink arose, I suspect, out of the fact that war was never actually offocially declared. Horse accidentally sank one of Deity's boats and offered compensation. Deity didn't accept the compensation offer. Well, he didn't exactly reject it either. His response was a smiley face - as in - which doesn't appear in my copy of the Acme Book of Approved Negotiating Techniques. Anyway, Horse seemed to take it - from Deity's lack of real response - that a state of war existed and proceeded to do a bit more plundering.

                  Once we'd all established that a state of war existed - and that, in itself, took longer than the 100 Years War - Deity insisted that the game go turn-based, on the basis that it was his policy not to fight wars in simul mode. Horse rejected that on the basis that it was only Deity's personal preference and not a pre-agreed game requirement. Votes were called for, abuse was hurled ...

                  And then things took a turn for the ... um ... truly farcical ...

                  <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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                  </font>Re unit bribing: this should always be assumed to be allowed. City bribing is another thing.
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                  ... Deity bribed a couple of Horse's units. Horse objected just a bit vociferously. Y'see, it's Horse's personal preference that unit bribing not be allowed. It gets bandied around before games, but it's never been officially agreed.

                  So, essentially, we have two players whose personal preferences - neither of them officially agreed between the group - have been booted up the date (an old-fashioned Oz euphemism for a kick up the Khyber).

                  <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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                  </font>"Cheat calls"?

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                  Surely it doesn't take a lot of extrapolation?



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                  • #10
                    As far as I am concerned, no unit bribe was agreed. In fact I won't play in games with unit bribe because I think its farcical. I've said it over and over again at the start of play and as far as I'm aware no-one has objected. So we better sort this out pronto.

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                    <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Alexander's Horse (edited February 07, 2001).]</font>

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                    • #11
                      Yes, you've said it, but it's never been decided by vote. Personally, I've never had a problem with unit bribe. City bribe is something altogether different.

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                      " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                      "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                      • #12
                        I really wish you'd spoken up sooner instead of dropping this bombshell now. I will not play in games with unit bribe so looks like my multiplayer career with the current group is over as of last night.


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                        • #13
                          It's not a bombshell. I've always differentiated between unit and city bribe. The problem is, the unit bribe scenario has never been thrashed out in a vote. Everyone tosses around game preferences and things move on. The only certainties in our games no formal alliances and no city bribing. Actually, I don't have strong feelings either way about unit bribing.

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                          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                          • #14
                            It is a bombshell to me that you seem to have been playing under the impression that no bribing units was simply my preference and not an agreed rule. Perhaps this all solidified whilst you were in Italy.

                            I'm flabbergasted. And in terms of my dispute with Deity, it gives Deity a nice out. Your timing could not have been worse to bring this up.


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                            • #15
                              What about building cities on mountain tops
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