The Diplogame

[OzzyKP]

****, thanks for stabbing me in the back Capo. Jeeze.

What the hell is your problem? And since when have you been declared sumpreme master of Diplogaming, able to dictate what is 'correct' and what isn't.

Even though this is a Diplo game it is still a GAME. We are not playing scenarios where all of us truly do play earth roles and earth characters. We are making up our own game from scratch a making up a new history for this planet of ours. Just because i don't call myself the Germans or the Chinese or something how does that detract from the game AT ALL?

The Metalheads are indeed a fantasy tribe, and for that matter so is the European Union. If i want to make my leaders be Ozzy Osbourne, Axl Rose, and Lars Ulrich, how is that different from you making your leaders Joan of Arc, Napoleon, Hitler and Caeser. They sure as hell didn't know each other, but you have them all in stories together, is that realistic? No.

But what matters is how we roleplay it all. I can play my Metalhead character a heck of alot better than alot of people can do with Chinese or Zulus. So Capo, you can go screw yourself.


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Ozzy - King of Metal
Ozzy - Hungarians in Eurodip I
Ozzy - Proud Sayen member
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[GNGSpam]

The concern, I think, is over how someone would roleplay the metalheads.

In a post on a previous diplogame you have a scence

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The Metalhead's loved leader, Ozzy, leaves the stage.


One more!
One more!
One more!
One more!
One more!
One more!

After 20 minutes of chanting the crowd bursts into applause as their ruler walks back onto stage once more.

Ozzy, "I'd like to introduce you to a few members of my cabinet. Jonathan Davis on Vocals and Foreign Minister."

Yeah!!!!

"James Hetfield as the Minister of Defense"

Yeah!!!!!

"Phil Anselmo is the trade minister"

Yeah!!!!!

"Our department of Science is led by Axl Rose"

Yeah!!!!

"and last but not least, our attitude advisor, Celine Dion"

BOOOOO, NOOOOOO, it can't be!!! Booooo

"HA, HA, just kidding everyone, our attitude advisor is none other than the clown prince of Metal himself, Alice Cooper!"

Horray!! Horray!!!

"Good night all, your leader will bring you updates from the battles soon to rage in SE asia with the evil English empire."

The Metalhead's great leader douses the crowd with some water before walking off stage.

Oz-zy!
oz-zy!
oz-zy!
oz-zy!
oz-zy!
oz-zy!
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Not very "Divine King" like.


I think the idea Capo is shooting for is keeping it within the perimeters of being "National" and all that jazz. Acting like world leaders. Not many heavy metal singers act like world leaders.

[The Capo]

First of all, I am not against Fantasy tribes in any way shape or form, what I am against is anything that takes away from the game, Ozzy contends that my European Union should be equated with his Metalheads, which is quite ludicrous if you ask me...

Hitler did not know Caesar, Caesar did not know Napoleon, and Napoleon in turn did not know Joan of Arc, bu the differance is they were great leaders, and not only did I use them and their character in a very effective manner, but I applied it to the game so that it made sense.

Case in point, let us take a gander at these Metalheads that we are so friggin' in love with, just take a look at ===>THIS THREAD TO SEE FOR YOURSELF.</a>

Obviously that post not only made no sense, that post made no historical sense. In my European Union game everything made perfect sense, Charlemagne was the leader of a Union of European Kingdoms who were formally nomadic and at war until Charlemagne decided to settle down and build a nation out of them. He died and succession of the crown was called into question, after years of strife his son Charles Martel eventually took control from the Habsburg family. To prove his strength he began to rule with an iron fist, at the same time Mongolian dissidents who were Republicans lost their Republic to the Mongolian Drake Dynasty, and in turn fled west, where they met up with the forces of Alexander the Great and Napoleon Bonaparte who were generals in Khazakstan and Persia. Alexander died and since he was not a "duke" he recieved no accolade, Napoleon feared the same for him and took up the Republican notes the Mongolian dissidents had, thus starting a European Republican movement. Which caused a civil war between Royalists and Republicans, Napoleon eventually took control and promptly waged war on the former allies of the Crown; Egypt.

I hope someone can try to point out how that is stupid and unrealistic, especially to the same level of the Metalheads!

I also find it disturbing that Ozzy has taken this so personally, when I said I would play as the Slackers since I am pretty much a stoner that listens to jam music and likes to have fun, he was angry. What's the differance Oz?

What I want for this game is very simple: I want an evnironment condusive to intelligent thought, I would have no problem with Ozzy and his Metalheads if they weren't so ridiculous.

What has occured now is a thread where I simply said IF YOU WANT TO PLAY RESPOND, has turned into the Metalhead thread, therefore I will start a new one, I hope you will at least not bring this argument to that thread.

Thank you, Ozzy again, nothing against you you are a great player and are much better than me, but I just don't like playing with the Metalheads.

Peace.


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[GNGSpam]

I think the question is, why be the metalheads? Because you want too! But whats the diffrence between the European Union, the Metalheads, and the Super-Fantastical-Non-Existant-Dwarves? Nothing unless you bring those elements into roleplay.

If you demand to be the metalheads, then its for the purpose of enjoying roleplaying a nation built on a musical genre. A nation built on music requires eletric guitars, amps, flashing lights and pyrotechnics, etc. Whose major stars did pretty crude stuff for the expressed purpose of shock value. While this is all well and good for entertainment, it is after all entertaining, it simply is NOT world leader like.

You have great roleplays, why not just be some boring nation and act normal? Why is it so overwhelming nessecary to have your nations Secetary of Defense smash a guitar in BC times on a stage?

[belinda9]

Ahem.
Screw history. I mean, if that's what all this is about, to heck with it. Don't get me wrong,I minored in history, but I don't want to assume a historical background for someone cause he's the damn Romans or whatever and I don't want to be historically correct. I don't want to have to think about that crap.
What's in a name? You want to know about my civ, come on and find out.
Personally, I like to call myself the Glorious Empire of the Rednecks, but if I'm trying to get into Capo's game and he don't like that, fine -- I'll call myself Greek or Celt or whatever crumbles his cookie but it ain't gonna matter one damn bit on how I play the civ.

so what difference does it make?

[The Capo]

Its not the name of the civ that is the problem, its what the civ is. The Rednecks could make sense becaue there exists a culture that would exist despite technology or lack of it, the Metalheads are a tribe that exists due to technology. Thus ushering them useless.

But even then, even accepting that, and even saying the Metalheads themselves is fine. The fact of the matter is, I have every indication that Ozzy will not play them in a well thought out manner. That's what I am saying.

[The Capo]

Alright, a little update action, the first thing is we have been getting a great response for this game, and its really cool.
The second is that we have around five people that I know are going to play and have already given me their tribe....

Sun Tzu - China?
Chris - Russia
Me - Romans
Joe - Brazilians/Americans?
Drake - Incans

I am not really even sure if that is entirely accurate, but I have recieved minor okays from the following people that I am not sure about yet...

Belinda9
Easthaven
Clay Pigeon
Curomber Endelil (sp?)
Magnus

That is the status right now, I want to get this cleared up before the next semester starts (January 22nd for me) so we can start at least a week beforehand to set the stage.

I probably mistyped a few peices of info as far as the tribes go, so if you could respond and clear that up it would be cool of you. Also, I think we are going ot need another Asian tribe, so if someone could be a country like Mongolia, India, Persia, Babylon or something of that nature (and you can choose any tribe in human history or make one up yourself as long as I okay it and you tell me where you want to generally start from).

One last note; Europe is taken. No more European civs.