Winning Wonder, in the Thanks for the Wonder voting

[Clay-Pigeon]

Hi Diety - I like your signature - but i thought it was fat-assed

[SmartFart]

Lighthouse. Pyramids are OK as well.

[IamSlowwHand]

Where were you when I was collecting votes?

[Nap Bonaparte]

In a deity level game I would go for Mikes to allow for expansion and growth. In a king level game I would have to agree with Smartfart......Pyramids takes on a much higher level of importance......especially for a medium or larger map and especially for non-duel parameters.

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[Nap Bonaparte]

On 2nd thought, my comments were intended for 1x prod. For 2x prod. at king level , I would look more closely at Sun Tzu, Leos, or SoL depending on relative starting positions.....definitely Sun Tzu if starting on the same continent as other players. Again...the relative importance of the wonders is determined by the game settings.

[Crustacian]

I did not vote bcause no decision could be made for any one single wonder.

But if limited to one I would not choose a wonder that replaced city improvements unless going for an early game stomp type strategy.

For the long run, I would for example choose Bach's over Mikes because cathedrals can be built too.

There is nothing quite like the boost to your early civ that Mikes gives, along with the growth potential opened up by cathedrals being in all your cities automatically upon founding, but if I had to choose ONLY one it would be something not replaceable, and for happiness it would be Bachs, even over CFC.

Colossus is not to be underestimated, and is recomended as the first wonder to go for in the OCC games. But it does expire later...

Magellans can and has many times given the game to its skilled holder...

and Hoovers, Isaacs, Shakespeares, Adams,....hmmmm all great choices.

this was an interesting and thought provoking post, but I just could not make up my mind.

[SmartFart]

Anyone care to tell me how to defend against Lighthouse?

I am beginning to hate this wonder

[IamSlowwHand]

Crusty, you just hit on one of the most surprising ommisions to me. Not a single vote for Bach's Cathedral.
Boann and I spoke of that.
A 1 Wonder game would definitely be best on King level.

[cavebear]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by IamSlowwHand on 11-25-2000 07:37 PM</font>
PST is 1 hour earlier than central time.
Any day will work. We'll wait on you.
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You seem to have forgotten about Mountain Time. PST is 2 hours earlier than CST.

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[cavebear]

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Anyone care to tell me how to defend against Lighthouse?

I am beginning to hate this wonder

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I am beginning to have an increased respect for Lighthouse. It had not really occurred to me until recently that a player with Lighthouse could build a fleet of triremes with attack/dip units and just hang it 4 squares off my coastal cities until ready to land. And with the vet status from Lighthouse, they are immune to my own triremes even when they did come to shore.

I think that when someone else gets Lighthuse, it might be wise to plow right on to Frigates for defense!



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[IamSlowwHand]

quote:

Originally posted by IamSlowwHand on 11-25-2000 07:37 PM
PST is 1 hour earlier than central time.
Any day will work. We'll wait on you.


You seem to have forgotten about Mountain Time. PST is 2 hours earlier than CST.


doh! i did, i did. i did forget.
regarding lighthouse, yeah you build it, you should go all the way with naval discoveries.
navy is a facet also overlooked.
frigate can gun down units, so is not just defensive.

[Nap Bonaparte]

Smartfart.....Lighthouse is indeed an awesome wonder early on....especially in a naval based game. My only complaint with it is that it expires so early in the game. You must concede the oceans to the player with Lighthouse early on and concentrate on adequate defense of your coastal cities(maybe Great Wall). Lighthouse forces you to race thru the naval techs and build Magellans ( non-vet caravals that move 5 are more than a match for vet triremes) and then get to Magnetism ASAP to deactivate the Lighthouse wonder. But I agree with you...anytime you can get vet naval units out of the box you are at a tremendous advantage. That is why building ports in the mid game is so important.

[OzzyKP]

I was surprized to see Adam Smith's get so much aclaim, i've never considered that wonder at all and figured it was a waste. Anyone care to defend their position?



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[IamSlowwHand]

It pays for all your 1 cost improvements. Use it as luxuries, to trigger "I Love The " days.
Or put into science.
Whatever, it's just money saved, after all.
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[IamSlowwHand]

Taking applications for a 1 Wonder game.
Boann has reserved a Civ.
Any others?