Tales From the Diplomatic Front V

[finbar]

Mmmmm. By the sound of this, a Diplo Game is just another typical Civ game in a different coloured frock.

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[Frank Johnson]

Well excuse me for the fact that no Diplo game has EVER progressed this far. Next time we will make it a scenario with just settlers and defense units with no attack and 99 defense and caravans.......yawn.......

[Curumbor Elendil]

All of this is so much bloviation. The fact remains, if you attack me, China, or initiate an act of espionage against me, it is an act of naked aggression, pure and simple, and there will be no way for you to paint me as the aggressor. I have already forsworn ever attacking you, but in secret negotiations you have declared that you would never let me "get away with" a space program and would attack me first. Those are the facts, folks.

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[Frank Johnson]

Everyone might as well start looking at this game as it was ment to be played. Although a spaceship may be seen as the peaceful way to victory, it is in fact the "Ultimate Nuke" you use to defeat all your opponents.

While the action of attacking an enemy who is about to construct a spacecraft seems agressive in its self, it is actually a responce to a much greater act of agression, an attempt to end the game with the other civilizations as the losers. One of the most necessisary elements of the space race is the capital defense. I refuse to be defeated, you might as well call your spaceship an obrital nuclear missile platform because that is what the equizilant of what it is.
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[CapTVK]

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Well excuse me for the fact that no Diplo game has EVER progressed this far. Next time we will make it a scenario with just settlers and defense units with no attack and 99 defense and caravans.......yawn.......
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That isn't completely true. Actually 3 diplogames were completed last year, but we only have one remaining story of a completed diplogame (most were lost because old threads were deleted).


And did you forget the most important lesson of diplomacy in the end? I'll give the answer at the end of the week.

Remember your history... http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum2/HTML/001270.html

[Frank Johnson]

That's any easy line to throw out there when you are poised to take the traditional victory. I qustion your motives.

[finbar]

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I don't think it's possible for someone to "win" a diplo game.

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*cough cough* Please don't take this as any sort of precedent, but I have to agree with Frank on this one.


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[Curumbor Elendil]

It's not the case that landing a spaceship is like nuking everybody else. In a diplo game everyone has a part to play and something to be proud of. There are many honors to be won: most wonders, top city in the Top Five, largest city in terms of population, most cities in the empire, etc. I don't think it's possible for someone to "win" a diplo game.

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[Curumbor Elendil]

We're on for this Thursday again, fellas.

Well, I note that no one posted anything about the last session played on 8/17. So here goes...

The Indian Federal Republic received precisely what it needed in its moment of crisis: the guidance of a firm hand. Curumbor Elendil, called "Elendil the Last" by newspapers who assumed that the Indian civilization's imminent demise was near, assumed the Prime Ministership in 1792 at the head of a Liberal-Conservative coalition and promptly began a massive rearmament campaign. As of 1803 the Indian civilization still stood, and hostilities had not yet broken out between the Chinese and Indians. Furthermore, intelligence has revealed that the Indians are building military units roughly at the same rate as the Chinese. Prime Minister Elendil is now considered to be the greatest leader in the history of the Indian civilization, surpassing even that great conqueror Murray Rothbard "Egyptoprinceps." Nevertheless, his greatest challenge yet remains: to beat off the unwashed Chinese hordes while still maintaining the research and productive capacity to build a spaceship. It is possible that the Chinese and Indians will brawl so violently and fruitlessly that the Japanese will overtake them.

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[Frank Johnson]

Sup guys. I will be having a party Thursday night with the guys. When it starts I still don't know it will be late, at least after 9 PM CST.....but it may cut our session short, it might not either, it depends when all of my friends get off work, show up etc.......just letting you know in advance!

[Frank Johnson]

Faced by superior enemies, secret alliances, and endless falsities spread by Chinese enemies, China has been left with no choice but to militarize. Now, from the coast of Indo China to the Gobi desert, a wall of Chinese and Indian forces stand toe-to-toe prepared for what seems to be an ineviatable bloodbath. The threat of a secret enemy plot to gang bang the Chinese prompted them to move their capital from the eastern coast of China to the highly fortified steppes and hills of the Russian Far East.

The Chinese people understand their plight. They know they are out numbered and behind in military technology. Their only hope is that their superior military training and heart can prevent enemy nations from lanuching any Orbital Nuclear Missile Platforms. The Chinese army, navy, and airforce is prepared to meet ANY space launched threat. Only one thing can be assured, a fight with the Chinese will be a bloody one! General Wu Fei Change is prepared to lead the glorious Chinese Elite Armor Guard into battle at anytime, their loyality is unmatched in the world to their leader Jian Fu Lynn, China's "River of Good Fortunes".......

[Curumbor Elendil]

Frank, no problem.

P.S. Actually, I don't think the Chinese do have superior training, as I rush built barracks everywhere before starting to churn out units.

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[Frank Johnson]

I would assume that India's latest forces have recieved additional training, however the whole of the Chinese military maintains a higher level of training because of our large well trained defensive army prior to this situation.

[Frank Johnson]

I would assume that India's latest forces have recieved additional training, however the whole of the Chinese military maintains a higher level of training because of our large well trained defensive army prior to this situation.

[finbar]

Frank, I can't do this Thursday night, so party your head off.

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