Is this dirty or should i expect this in a game?

[Berzerker]

Merc, the behavior you describe is shameful...
and I rarely intentionally build on someone else's specials unless I can get away with it. I know the feeling of building a beautiful city only to have parasites build nearby stealing resources - so next time, be the parasite

[Matthew]

This is why catapults were invented. The trick is to get mathematics while building a couple vet phalanxes, then a couple vet vatapults, and moving next to the mountain just before the end of your turn before he can react. Won't always work, but sometimes it does. Especially if the fool doesn't realize you have a city near by. But I have to agree that it's probably cheaper to just stick a couple defensive units on it if it's vulnerable, or do enough patrolling to avoid the intrusion.

Once RAH's ally intentionally built on his specials. Boy was he pissed. Couple turns later the poor fool was asking me, the leader of the other power block, if he could ally with us instead.

[drake]

Since when did you have to be fair to others? A villain will make the game interesting for everyone....

[cavebear]

Crusty - That idea of killing your city to eliminate the opponents trading routes is quite inventive. It takes some nerve to do something like that. So, I confer upon you the author of a new Civ strategy: "disestablishmentarianism"...

On the other hand, it might be called "cuttingoffyournosetospiteyourface:

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[rah]

Yeah, I was Pissed. Real Pissed. Didn't expect that from an ally. If it had not been an ally, he never would have gotten the city down and established. Since then I have gotten a little more paranoid. I even trashed some dips (from a civ that I had a tech stealing treaty with) that got too close to one of my cities that was near completing a wonder. While my opponent was naturally upset, I explained the situation and he understood. (understood meaning didn't go into a suicidial assualt against my civ)

And yes, after that first experience, I did ask to realign with the other team. My ally wasn't worthy anymore.

That's why I love no alliance games, every treaty must be held suspect. You make peace and hope it will buy you a few critical turns to build up a defense or offense. Or some treaties that are mutually beneficial and are honored for a considerable time. But there are only a small handful of players that I will trust for that type of treaty.

I love trading maps with people with the "only if you don't trade maps with someone else clause" only to find out later that your map was sold as a commodity to every other player.

The little treacheries are what makes MP civ the great game that it is. AI backstabbing was expected and an annoyance at best, but when a human player does it, depending on the timing, could prove fatal.

RAH

[Bohlen]

This is a strategy game, right? Sounds fair to me.

[Mercantile]

I just have never done this in a game before. Like i said , i will add it to my repetoire

Let us all unite and build on other peoples specials.

[IamSlowwHand]

Expect it if you expect war, Mercantile.
It's an open declaration of war.
Building on a mountain in your city squares is pretty good tactic.

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[Ming]

An "open declaration of War"...

You bet. I would never do it to an ally, and everybody else is fair game

I always love how they spend the next few hundred years wasting resources to kill the encroaching city. When you compare their cost vs the cost of just a settler and some vet defensive unit, it's a great trade off!
Even if they eventually do get you (and most times they can't)... it's still a pleasure watching them sweat!

[IamSlowwHand]

I always enjoy your insights, Ming.
There is nothing that retards the advancement of a civilization like a prolonged war.

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