Cheating Confessions

[suas333]

how thats one i never heard before. Investigating city for that, incredible.

[berzerker]

Xin - Did you say an opponent can look at someone's map by investigating a city? Ouch! I've been playing this more than a year and never knew that...

[rah]

Ah XIN, the pleasures of playing with MWHC in the early days. You'd be allies and you would still wonder if it was a good idea to give him your map. He added a wonderful aspect of unpredictability that is sometimes missing from current games. He was the King of the Double Deal. Sometimes you wanted to kill him, but other times you just had to tip your hat to him.

RAH

[Xin Yu]

Berz: You can't see where his cities are, but you can see where is his black area and where is not.

[common_terry]

i just learned the continent # trick.

(click on unexplored territory to c if the land ends, Loc x,y) z z is the continent #)

i started doing this and thus got more huts.

i have now stopped and feel guilty for exploiting this bug.

[Alexander's Horse]

I must say I fall into the "too lazy to cheat" category. I couldn't be bothered clicking away on the dark parts of the map for example. It would be just too boring.

One thing I do though is practice turns. I don't get ahead of the game but just go to my current saved turn and practice it, plan next moves etc. Sound crazy? Not if your planning a big military operation next turn. I also like to measure distances - how many turns to point x or y etc. Again I do this mainly for military purposes. Sometimes for trade (which city is closer, best route). I spend a lot of time studying the map. I love maps.

Oops, most of this is irrelevant to this thread



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But it warmed our hearts to hear it anyway.

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[suas333]

how does the location numbers x,y tell u where the land ends?

[Ming]

Well my big cheat was in an arena match with MWHC as a partner against Xin and Rah. We were getting smoked. And that's the game MWHC first did the old use two computers to check the map out. (Which he posted on apolyton after the game) He had both computers humming, and he was giving me updates on incoming enemy units. The funny thing is, it didn't really help, they just murdered us anyway.
I've tried a few of the other cheats out in games when they are discovered to see how they work. I did create a non ship once when told that somebody had figured that out in a game. But in most cases, other people are also trying it out since they were new, and they are always posted right after, and I never use them again. (but I do add them to the cheat thread )

And, like CR, I don't cheat. Unless you consider incremental buying and some of the other little things cheats. Plus, if people agree not to do them, I don't.

There are just so many disagreements on what's allowed or not... so we always discuss it before the game starts...

[Xin Yu]

Well Ming I thought you did not know MWHC was peeping. He (after letting us wait for 10 minutes) sent a diplo and bribed my workshop city, which I instantly bribed back. I knew he was peeping. My troops were set up in such a way that his diplo could only get to that city by following a perticular route. If he had not looked at the map he would have bumped into my troops well before reaching my city. I remember accusing him of looking at the map, but did not give any explanation.

[Xin Yu]

Just remembered, in that game I had another clue that you guys had peeped the map. I sent a diplo, a settler, and a musk to the north end of your territory. Two spaces north to your city but you could not see my units. My settler was building a road but you found me before it could finish. If it had finished my diplo could go down and bribe the city (the square in between was a roaded forest). My settler was there for about 3 turns (it was a mountain so the road was not finished). Actually at first I though about building a city there and bribing your city instantly. But I was too eager to see flight in those days that I did not want to scare you away so early.

[berzerker]

Ah! This is what I was hoping for, some real confessions, not these people who've never cheated Btw Xin, Curumbor and I tried the diplo investigation/map button and I could see his city (the civ had only 1 city) centered in an open (investigated) area. He investigated my civ which did have 3 cities but I forgot to ask him if he saw all 3 cities. The map was rudimentary so not much info was offered by that technique - but I suppose you could see if any cities were very close by.

Okay, I just spoke to Curumbor and he said all 3 cities did show on the map as white dots.
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[rah]

My favorite was when Ming got all huffy and accused Xin of cheating because Xin was able to triangulate the location of one of Ming's cities (Philadephia) through the use of the "closest to feature". Meanwhile Xin had named all of his cities Boston (which was ming's closest city) so Ming thought he had a whole lot of room to expand into. Yes, the first few games were a riot as we tried to outdo each other in taking advantage of loopholes/bugs. New ones were found every game. Of course I would always get pissed because MWHC would never build enough caravans to trade with me.

RAH
But the best thing is, I now trust all of these guys not to use any of them if it's been agreed to up front.

[Curumbor Elendil]

OK, so how DO you create NONE units? I've never figured this one out.

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[Xin Yu]

http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/HTML/000244.html
The first post of Ming covered most of the cheats. The NONE unit one is in 6.2).