Matt,Xin,Ming,Bird,War4ever,RAH game

[rah]

Another Epic begins. Sans the technical difficulties that plagued our first attempt.
An interesting start to say the least. For you lurkers the teams fell out as.
War4ever-RAH
Ming-Matt
Bird-Xin Yu (nice to have you back XIN)

A little too early to make predictions.

For everyone out there that thinks mountain cities can't be taken early. Wrong! I lost one to those evil Mongol. This is the second mountain city to fall early in our last two games. (take that AH) I was surprised when I started the city to find another one already in the city screen taking advantage of the fruit that I would have used to grow the city to size two quickly. Without it, the Mongol catapults ravaged the city quickly. My ardent ally did his best to avenge my lose by destroying one of the Mongols cities.

Thank God we have the GL.

It's a real small world so space is at a premium.

More to come.

RAH
Who hates it when the customization doesn't take. It shows me as the Babylonians but on some status screen it showed me as the ferrets.

[Matthew]

I don`t know how I get stuck with Dirt when (from what I`ve seen) there's grassland all around. I HATE DIRT !!!!!

It was fortunate that I had mathematics when you built that city there. I knew I had to attack quickly. Xin obviously had a decent start- 3 wonders already. But I know he wanted the gardens. he can't fool me.

[Ming]

I was thrilled to get the Hanging Gardens. I was having serious happiness problems, but not anymore

But, I kind of wish that I had held off and waited for the GL. I would have built it long before those nasty Americans did if I hadn't bailed and taken HG. Something tells me that GL will be the most important early wonder in this game...

[Bird]

Damn barbs. The destroyed a size one city near the end of the session, which sucks b/c it took a while to get to the spot. I attacked with a horse and put one archer in the red, but another archer was with it and killed my fortified pikeman in the forest.

But the worst barb encounter was a single archer approaching a size 3 city with a leader. The city was on grass, so I knew I had to be careful. I had a pikeman and warrior in the city. I sent the pikeman out onto a river square and fortified and rushbuilt another pikeman just in case. Archer kills pikeman and has a teeny tiny sliver of red left, so I figure no way he can hurt me and I'll get the leader after the archer commits suicide. Well, next turn there goes my rushbuilt pikeman and the barb archer still has the same tiny amount of red. City is now size 2, and I'm working a gold square, which is just about the only trade special in my whole map. ****. So I rushbuild a horsie (this is getting expensive) to take him out. And then I start thinking how much it will suck not to get the leader and I decide to hope the piddling warrior can hold out in the city next turn and the horse can grab the leader. Well, since this involved "thinking" on my part, you can guess what happened. So after I am down to a size 1 city with only a horse left, I do what I have to do. But that was one tough archer.

As for the rest of the game, not one science discovery in white. Two free sciences early from huts killed research to monarchy, and the crazy thing is not even one of those free sciences was white.

[Bird]

Ming: GL should indeed prove to be quite a bonanza once the tech trading ban is lifted. Who got it, rah?

[Ming]

W4E got it. (rah's partner)

I had the same problem with huts... got pottery and warrior codes, and twice it wouldn't let me move down the monarchy path.
Since I had limited trade at first, I thought I would be in despotism until 2000. But I then found some Gold, and was in monarchy by 2850.

So bad luck did slow me down, but in the long run, it really won't matter

[rah]

Yes, War4 got it, but I helped pay for it
We thought it might be useful.

Matt, That city that you croaked, I had a settler on that square 10 turns before and was going to establish that city, but on the same turn a chariot found a whale about 8 squares farther away that had a forest nearby. (and you know how much I like forest whale combos.) I figured that i had plenty of time to send the next settler to that site and I realy wanted that whale. Needless to say I learned the error of my ways. If that first one had built there, you would have never taken it. (it would have been harder anyway. maybe taken three catapults. But if it was size 3, i doubt you would have tried.)

RAH
Do I show as the Babs or the Ferrets to you guys?

[DanS]

Could each of you guys do me a favor the next time you hit a dead spot in your game (with 6 playing there should be plenty)? Could you ping the host and tell me your response times in the cable v. DSL thread. Pls also tell me your rough geographical location (e.g., Eastern US, etc.), the method/speed of your connection and the approximate local time (e.g., 7 pm PST). If you really get ambitious, it would be wonderful if you could include the number of hops from your connection to the hosting player and describe the latency (e.g., "it took 5 minutes to move a piece", etc.).

Thanks in advance for your help.
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[Xin Yu]

Starting point: I had a whale, so built a city at once. built the second city, found a chariot from hut, then the chariot met Bird's empty city! I could move in! But I'm a nice person so we allied.

It turned out that he built on my only direction of expansion. So I got to use ships to ferry my settlers to build new cities. Painful. (On the other hand, I had made the right decision to persue mapmaking first).

Got 50 bucks then a normad from huts later. One sea barb attack (an archer), My warrior killed it (amazing!, must be that it's my capital, and the barb is on a grass). I was only hope that my warrior could weaken it.

Collosus was my first choice of wonder. At that time I could only build lighthouse or collosus. I nolonger build happiness wonders in recent games.

I made a mistake in researching path. Alp-Cer-Map-Cod-Mon, revolution (same turn Monarchy with a blue tech, very lucky). Then Bro-Cur-Trade. Used caravans to help wonders, got three. Writing. Then I should go for Pot-Sea to build harbors, but I didn't. Hope this mistake is not too big. Bird blocked my way of expansion, but also provided protection to my cities. So I did not research weapons. Lucky enough, the barbs were not after me .

That's it for now. My population was #1, but most of the other stats were low. You guys must be doing ICS and only use specials. The next session I'll have a boost, be aware.

[Matthew]

I came up with this idea too late for this game, but just wait till my next mediocre starting position. I will then unveil my new strategy. I call it Rabbits from H*LL !!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!

I'm almost looking foreward to my next piss poor start in a multiplayer game.

[Bird]

Hehehe. I did kind of forget to mention how Xin caught me with my pants down. As too often seems to be the case, I again settled my first city very late and the second settler was roaming around looking for huts or a decent trade special, to no avail. So after I settled my first city I just plopped the second city down in the first half decent spot I could find (keeping with my credo of not opening huts). Xin's chariot appears in the city screen before my next turn. I just had to hope he wasn't already allied, b/c I didn't even have enough money to rushbuild a unit. Whew!

[rah]

The real interesting thing for me was that based on the coordinates, I started pretty close to the center of the map. I got three non-units from my first three huts, so I was out exploring fast and for quite a while I was number #1 in land area. Yet I was the last person to find someone. Go figure.

RAH

[War4ever]

Well hello from everyones favorite Mongol who is the Canadians this game (although everyone keeps calling me an american )

Well off to a slower start this game and in fact i only came across two huts all game

Was the last to meet someone although i saw Xins trireme whiz by and a nasty Mongol kept trying to explore/build on my land..... i promptly kicked him out and destroyed a city (was real difficult when it was unguarded )

I noticed the mongols don't fight as well when i am not leading them OCC games anyone ????? j/k anyways .........

My early growth was hampered by barbs killing both of my exploring units $#@#@@ and i wont go into the odds of it happening as others have had some poor luck as well but i believe a certain Canadian was moaning early in the game.

Of courtse the one direction i don't explore
is where all the action is taking place....

I am the little Canadian nation , possesing the best early wonder of the game the GL ,built with Ferret money and have already received 6 techs soon to be more as the trading tech embargo is being lifted the first turn of the next session......

I was first to Philosopy but its not like i posses a huge tech lead on anyone LOL and thanks to Rah i have had a buffer zone from my enemies whose defense looked weak.... this is surely to change as i am sure someone else has to have feudalism, which means the opportunity to crush the mongols and the mongolites has vanished

Confused am I as was my ally by the Mongols, and Mongolites, two differnt tribes whith the same hostile intentions

Great game guys..... i love this stuff.... in fact i had a duel until 7 am after our game..... to be continued
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[Xin Yu]

Even better. I'll take a day off on Wed.

[War4ever]

i am good on Wed at any time This should be a most interesting session and i am looking forward to getting as much playtime in as possible