History of Mankind

[VetLegion]

I have started this thread for roleplaying of our tuesdays eurotime diplo. We can keep technical issues in the old thread.

[VetLegion]

It was in year thirty of rule of Slaven the Thinker that the event that I will tell you about occured.

Slavs were since dawn of time a peaceful people, living their days in the fertile lowlands on the shores of the Crno more (black sea). There were many tribes of them, the Rusi, the Hrvati, the Poljaci, the Srbi, the Cesi and so on, but across the tribes one language was spoken and same gods were worshiped. Perun, of sun and storm. Svibor, of water. Lada, the spirit of spring.

They had no military ways to speak of and their meager knowledges of irrigation and mining were used to acquire but a few products of earth which were traded locally, between villages that had no walls. Such were the infancy days of our great nation.

Then, one day, there was a schism. But it brewed for longer.

Prophets came from the arid lands of the south, bearded men who held no women. They preached to the people of one God, whom they called 'jehova' and who was more powerful than Perun, and at least as pissed off at everyone. Slaven the Thinker was a man of words, so he dined with them and debated. He pointed at inconsistencies in their faith and laughed at their talk of 'great temples' and told them the proper way to speak to a god is standing up and looking at the sky. And how can you look at the sky if there is a roof above you?

But some took prophets to their homes and heeded their words. Miroslav, son of Slaven, was first. He was followed by Zdeslav of Poljaci. Then Vlad of the Cesi. And soon, the stone was being cut for the first temples. And to finance them, tolls were instituted on bridges and taxes and thithes. Bickering started and sporadic clashes between tribes. Soon, the situation became unbearable. Their minds poisoned by words of the priests who convinced them that all must be done for the glory of god, tribes fought savagely.

It was only then that Slaven of the Rusi understood the gravenes of the situation and acted. He attacked the Poljaci and all the other tribes and a bloody struggle that lasted for a decade, the wars ended. As he stood over the body of his dead son, Slaven looked up to the sky. "We have poisoned the soil with the blood of our kin! This land is cursed and no man shall live here again!"

And thus began the Great Exodus.

They burnt all the temples of the southern God. A great Council of Tribes was held, and a Treaty of Spreading was accepted. The tribes were to go their own ways. No tribe was ever to accept a priest again. They were to convene every five years in a city of choice, to attend the Games of Gods, to compete and discuss and wash away the bad blood with laughter and wine and mead.

And so it was, and there was never again a schism. And when Perun looks down, he can see people from Baltik to Ural talk to him in same tongue.

Written down by Papirije, scribe of the city Sibirsk, tribe of Rusi, in the year 2000 after Slaven.

[VetLegion]

What passe in the weste by Vinko the Jolly

I write to my brothers in Sibirsk my grievances. My son Ratimir the Unpatient has been forbidden access to his promised land. We have for centuries lived in peace with the Germanos, but now they block his acess to the Brittania. This leader of Germanos is proud and stubborn. He even refused our aid against the barbarians. This has been going on for years and Ratimir is growing increasingly restless. I look forward to discussing this with you on the next Games.

I have asked artist to make an interpetation so you can see how it looks on the land.

[OzzyKP]

Just to keep us observers in the loop, who is who?

Please list civ, name, color, and starting location out of character. Thanks much!

[deity]

And post the session saves...

AND save this thread and synchronise to your hard drive... it will disappear eventually..

[deity]

I expect the truth of the atawan ancestry to be revealed througtout the history of this world.
I expect to learn why, despite the discovery of writing on many occasions, the atawans have yet to understand capitalisation...


[ I know, I know - don't look at my sig... ]

[Ljube]

VetLegion, leader of the Slavs, Germanos, leader of the Dutch and Winzity, leader of the Chinese are invited to gape with awe and amazement as the ancient and glorious civilisation of Ethiopians demonstrates the wonders of FEUDALISM. Absolutely no scribes will be allowed.

[OzzyKP]

You didn't get in on this one Deity?

[atawa]

Originally posted by deity
I expect the truth of the atawan ancestry to be revealed througtout the history of this world.
I expect to learn why, despite the discovery of writing on many occasions, the atawans have yet to understand capitalisation...


[ I know, I know - don't look at my sig... ]

The Maori are far from such discovery's as writing and havent even heared of this thing called capitalisation

I'll post later tonight (when I dont have a manager looking over my shoulder )

[deity]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
You didn't get in on this one Deity?

I couldn't make this slot. Damn it. I really wanted a good diplo game.

[Ljube]

To answer the calls from the audience, I'll post the players and the map.

The map used is OzzyKp's real world map, also used for HOTW2 diplo. It's only slightly edited:

1. Connected UK and Scandinavia to Europe. (It's united Europe after all.)
2. A few changes around my capital. (I am editing the map, am I not?)
3. Replaced some jungles and plains in Indonesia and Pacific islands with forests and/or grasslands. (Why are there so many plains in the first place? I thought plains were a speciality of the Americans until I discovered that rainy Indonesia also had plains.)

There are five players in our diplo game:

1. VetLegion, leader of Panslavia (white - Russians), starting at (83, 35)
2. ljcvetko, leader of Ethiopia (green - Babylonians), starting at (94, 64)
3. germanos, leader of Holland (dark blue - Germans), starting at (73, 27)
4. atawa, leader of New Zealand (yellow – Aztec), starting at (177, 105)
5. winzity, leader of China (light blue – Chinese), starting at (138, 44)

The map is large and is well suited for seven players. Unfortunately, we were unable to find more than five that could agree to the same time slot. Even more unfortunately, the author of these lines and the changes to the map and host for the first 3 turns forgot to include 2 additional AI civilisations so that interested people could join the game later on.

I’ll now post again Ozzy’s edited map. As for current position, I played at work so I don’t have the save here at home. If nobody else posts it I shall on Monday at the latest.

[Ljube]

Forgot to post the map.

[OzzyKP]

thanks much

[VetLegion]

Ah, germanos is leader of Dutch, I'll correct that in the future.

Here is the last save I have, 1400 BC.

[VetLegion]

VetLegion, leader of the Slavs, Germanos, leader of the Dutch and Winzity, leader of the Chinese are invited to gape with awe and amazement as the ancient and glorious civilisation of Ethiopians demonstrates the wonders of FEUDALISM. Absolutely no scribes will be allowed.

King Slaven Branimir V of Panslavia was getting angrier as his envoy to the court of Haile Selaisie of Ethiopians finished describing the demonstration of Feudalism he witnessed. Absolutely no scribes were allowed, ofcourse, but man was specifically chosen for his good memory, and brought home an accurate description of the event.

- You say then, envoy, that this feudalism allows them these...pikemen?
- Yes, sire. It's the whole system you see..
- And these are better than my phalanx?
- Yes cause they are not peasants and they train whole year and..
- I want it! I want Feudalism! His eyes left the envoy and went to his scholars.
- Ah, sire you know we don't have the funds..
- Funds!? You are dumb, that's why! How can Ethiopians, of mere three cities have better scholars then all the tribes of my Kingdom? How?
- They are not better sire, they just..
- They run better! Perhaps I should also set lions on you, like Haile does to his? Maybe it would make you more productive?
- Sire, you know about the legendary Ethiopian Mountain of Gold. It is said their scientists have all its wealth for themselves...
Branimir sighed.
- The mountain of gold.. only such mountain in the whole world. If I were to have this mountain.. if I were to take it..
- Sire, at this moment, it would be extremely unwise. Your grandfather, Ivan the Explorer, has set up a border and a peace and a treaty of friendship with Ethiopians, it would mean breaking the word of your royal family..
- Yes, the old bastard. If only he was faster to Suez, I would not have to envy primitives now...
- Your grandfather was a most distinguished among world leaders my lord, thanks to him panslavia is a most prosperous nation..
- Yes but my achievements have to be greather than those of my father! What will I be remembered by if I don't leave a new knowledge to my people and a new city or twenty?
- Your highness, there are news of civilizations to the east and south of our land, near the edge of earth table, if we can contact them, perhaps we can trade..
- Get the expeditions ready! King of Panslavia will not again suffer the humiliation of being outpaced in research by a bunch of brownskins!