Hard Times Succession Game

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Cheat mode???

Originally posted by Scouse Gits


Eh?
Was this originally the case, STYOM? If so why not resave as a scenario? If not, who has been fiddling?

SG[1]

Huh. I don't THINK it was - I used a custom map (not of my design), as mentioned... but I'll go back to my 4000 BC save when I get home tonight and see if it shows Cheat Mode then.

It's news to me...

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
Hmmm - this sounds ?fun?

SG[1]

Hopefully it will be and not a complete cakewalk

Good turns Jrabbit

[-Jrabbit]

We've got 3 Ellies ready to march on Zimbabwe (which is known to have an archer inside) after it has fulfilled its usefulness to us.

Also, several 'vans are near completion. Planned to build Woebegone Hides and use trireme to deliver them to Zimbabwe, but next player may want to consider a starting WoW.

One settler is currently heading for the capital and another should be at completion. Need to start roadgrading and irrigation to take advantage of our (precious few) non-tundra tiles!

[Scouse Gits]

Cheat mode ... well somebody will be going to the Institute. Because it's so cold up there we must call our next city Gulag Centre

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SG(2)

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

In case there is any doubt - regardless of how cheat mode got activated, play on!

I'm certain no one would take advantage of that, anyway.

[Straybow]

We ran into this once before: once saved as a scenario it can then be saved as a regular game without difficulties. No need to keep saving each round of play as scn.

[Bloody Monk]

Save does not load!!

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Checked list -- Bloody Monk is up.

First time I've ever seen his name on a sxn list. Must be feeling cocky since his successful Aztec shield-starving tactic.


Welcome, O Bloody One!

Thanks for the warm welcome, O Cony One!!

Not the first, just the first involving MGE. Maybe you don't read threads involving 2.42 like the Sticky Mouse Senate game. Too bad, as Straybow gave a very useful tutorial on finding hidden specials.

Not feeling cocky just eager to learn more from such august company. After looking at the game, the major feeling is more like trepidation. What a wonderful start we were given!!

Some observations about the .sav situation:

1) The first save is ba_3000, the next two are ha_....

2) The first save is in cheat mode

3) Not to bury the lead, but the last save from -J does not load. I am sure I was able to receive -Jrabbit's .sav's from the last game, but this one does not work.

Monk

[Bloody Monk]

-Jrabbit,

Just in case this wasn't noticed, could you retry attaching the .sav, please. I get a message: "failed to load. not a saved game"

STYOM,

Will you please post the 4000b .sav, if it has a visible hut, or the coordinates of the first hut you tipped. I would like to use the hutfinder tool that SG[1] has shared.

Assuming I get a .sav I can load, I can play now. If we are to continue in cheat mode, that's fine. But, if the game should need to be saved as a scenerio, instructions are requested.

Monk

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

D'OH!!

My bad, re: cheat mode.

I restarted another game on the same map, to see whether it would generate a cheat mode message - it did not. Perhaps I had activated cheat mode in an earlier start *tests that* No, doesn't make a difference.

So I'm . Sorry, guys. This will affect our score of course - but then who cares about the score? I know I didn't peek at anything, and I trust no one else will either.

Anyway... found Gulag Centre by all means *STYOM digs in closet for snowshoes*


Here's the original save - note that it was called badnews, hence the ba_ prefix on the first save:

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

@ Monk

First hut was at 84,4 .

Try adding a .sav extender to Jrabbit's unzipped file - that worked for me.

I considered resaving the game as a .scn - but doesn't that eliminate the tech tree restrictions that a normal game has? Better to play on, under the honour system. IMO.

Here's the unzipped version of Jrabbit's save:

[-Jrabbit]

Thanks, STYOM. FYI to all, I don't post my .sav files -- they're all Mac-cy.
I post .zip files of my saves, renamed to PC standards.

In this case, I mistakenly added a ".sav" instead of a ".zip" when renaming.
sorry for the confusion.

[Bloody Monk]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
@ Monk

First hut was at 84,4 .

Try adding a .sav extender to Jrabbit's unzipped file - that worked for me.

I considered resaving the game as a .scn - but doesn't that eliminate the tech tree restrictions that a normal game has? Better to play on, under the honour system. IMO.

Here's the unzipped version of Jrabbit's save:

Thanks STYOM.

I should have noticed the problem with the save. I added the ext as you suggested and everything works. The screen looks ugly, though. You guys weren't kidding about the deepfreeze conditions!!

I shall do my best; probably won't get much done until tomorrow. The only thing that jumps out is from blackclicking South of Woethe lake, confirmed by hutfinder. (Thanks for the plot point) There is definitely something down there. Later....

Monk

[Straybow]

STYOM: Tech? Tree?? Restrictions??? Me no understand.

[Scouse Gits]

Stray - a scenario always has an open tech tree - all elligible techs are available for research - a normal game suppresses a third of these each time the tree is offered - hence the problem of the 'junk tech' on the route to monarchy...

SG[1]

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Thanks for the elucidation SG[1] - my exposition was a bit cryptic.

The upshot is that making the game into a .scn would make it easier - which is IMO worse than having cheat mode (inadvertently) activated.