Anyone ever get the "go to" function to work properly?

[Ming]

I'll usually test the route a unit will take between two cities with a worthless unit first. (but I don't even bother if it crosses the 0 point on the map)

I then watch to see just how stupid the unit is, and then send engineers to "fix" the problem. After that, I deem it safe and will use it. This is good for MP games when you don't have the option to reset

[Thue]

quote: Originally posted by Ming on 06-14-2000 07:54 AM One question about Freeciv... Do you have a "patrol" command? One where you can tell ships or planes to patrol a specific area every turn looking for enemy units. A command like that would really speed up play in the modern era.

Not yet, but unlike civ 2 we will get it. If it can make you convert to freeciv I will code it myself
Up until now we didn't have a use for it, because freeciv didn't have Fog of War. (FoW is in the next release due _very_ shortly)

[Ming]

I appreciate the offer, but you have to get me to conver to linux first... and it will be a cold day in **** before my wife makes that addition to our home network. She is a computer consultant, and until she sees she can make money by learning it... she won't
She has more than enough business now with microsoft... sigh...

[Thue]

How hard is it?
1) buy mandrake 7.1
2) put CDROM in drive
3) click standard install, with automatical resizeing of windows partition
4) wait
5) play freeciv, it comes included

If you can use a mouse and a keyboard you should be capable of doing that.
[This message has been edited by Thue (edited June 14, 2000).]

[Steve Clark]

I know this is not the forum for debating OT, but I refuse to GoTo ( ) to the OT Forum. Since Ming brought it up, this is just my reaction to Thue, who seems to be popping up more frequently in these parts. Folks like him seem to be bent on developing stuff in Linux (like FreeCiv) instead of producing a product that we can play. After 10 years of being on the Mac, I switched to Windows in 1995, just so I can have more games to play. So take off your red hat and give me something that I and many others can play.

[Ming]

Thue... you haven't met my wife.

She controls the network and all 5 PC's in our house... she rules with an iron fist!
She sees linux as a threat to her income.
It will indeed be a cold day in **** before she would let me load Linux on my machine at home. If you are married, you will know what I'm talking about. It's not worth the fight I would get into by suggesting it

[SCG]

Ok, this is pretty funny, and related to the subtopic we seem to be stuck on - and since I don't want to go to OT(like Steve) - i'm spending too much time in just general and strategy atm) I'll post this and let Ming et all decide if it deserves some other location

I found this online:

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Note: #0731 From: Ilovane Time: Tue Jun 13 23:24:27 2000
Area: General To: all
Subj: If operating systems ran airlines...
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UNIX Airways: Everyone brings one piece of the plane with them to the
airport. They all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece by
piece, arguing non-stop about what kind of airplane they are supposed to be
building.

Mac Airlines: All the airline personnel look and act exactly the same.
Every time you ask questions about details, you are gently but firmly told
that you don't need to know, you don't want to know, and everything will be
done for you without your ever having to know, so just shut up.

Windows Air: The terminal is pretty and colorful, with friendly stewards,
easy baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. Ten minutes into
the flight, the airplane explodes with no warning whatsoever.

Windows NT Air: Just like Windows Air, but the tickets cost more, it uses
much bigger planes, and takes out all other aircraft in a 40-mile radius
when it explodes.

Linux Air: Disgruntled employees of all other OS airlines decide to start
their own. They build the planes, ticket counters, and pave the runways
themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of printing tickets,
but you can also download and print tickets yourself. When you board the
plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench, and a copy of
Seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very
comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time and the in-flight meal is
delicious. You try to tell customers of other airlines about the great
trip, but all they can say is, "You had to do WHAT with the seat???"
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[Ming]

ROTFLMAO...
Carry on

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Ming
CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net

[Thue]

Ahh, what comes first, the chicken or the egg. The users or the games? In this case the game has arrived, and is waiting for the users (although being bundeled with mayor distributions like mandrake I would think we had quite a few users).

It just doesn't inspire to produce free software that only fortifies M$ position. And I would have to buy windows and the windows development tools to do so.

[Thue]

Ming: hmm, it isn't my problem. Let us see how many musthave-features and bugfixed we can add before you think it is enough to take the figth with your wife.
5 PC's with windows in one house - she must do nothing but run between them and to reboot them

edit: and no, I am not married; I am only a 21 year old student!
[This message has been edited by Thue (edited June 14, 2000).]

[Mark von Wagner]

Having used all the operating systems in question, I have only a two corrections:

1) Mac Airlines: Everything is done for you without you needing to know the details.

2) Windows NT Air: The flight usually lasts about 20 minutes, not 10.

Other than that, quite accurate and quite funny

[MacUser]

LOL!

Well, just to drag us back on topic ( ), I tend to use the Go To command a lot in the Mac MPG version and except for crossing the seam in the world, it usually works okay. Sometimes units seem to run off the road like they missed the turn and caused a traffic pile-up. I've never tried a "test drive" followed by repairing the route with an engineer; that sounds like a good idea. However, I've never noticed units taking a mountain or the wrong way around the inland sea route. The success of the Mac Go To may be attributed to the Brian Nesse who fixed (at least to a major degree) the bug in the first Mac patch! I remember that before Brian's patch the Go To NEVER worked the way I would expect. Having said that, I still never risk a Trireme on a Go To command! ;p

Now I'm waiting for Smash to comment...

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[Ming]

The patch for the mac seems to work better for the goto command then the windows patch... (how come this doesn't surprise me)

I will admit that the latest patch does make the goto command work better than it did...
(and this didn't surprise me either)
But it could still use some improvements
(and this really doesn't surprise me)

The test method really works well for me in MP. If a diplo moves off the road (and usually on to bad terrain), I'll just build a road there and see if that helps. I start making notes what cities it's safe to use the goto command to and from... and I will some times break a long trip up into two legs that I know work. Once you start building those caravans, it really speeds up your turn in MP... Plus, you don't forget which city the damn caravan is supposed to go to

[Thue]

Hmm; the freeciv goto still isn't perfect for triremes, though it is better. It has to be, as in freeciv the AI's triremes can actually sink, unlike the civ 2 AI's

[Thue]

I can understand nobody has made a really good GOTO for triremes - It is darn hard!