New ToT Succession game

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Waves lap on far distant shores... and stirred by the waves of the great sea, a tribe arises, destined to rule, or to have its histories lost beneath the same timeless waves...

This is a succession game, playable in ToT with the no-limits patch. It's not necessary to have the patch to play, but late in the game, it may be needed to overcome game limits of money and population (?).

Settings:
ToT- Original Game
Deity-7 Civs-Raging
Bloodlust
Gigamap
Small Land Mass
Archipeligo

Any are welcome to join, up to about 8. Especially welcome are veterans of the Invasion-Earth ToT game, and anyone who couldn't fit into the MGE or 2.4.2 games currently going on. We'll start with 20 turns, and then see where things stand, the second go-round.

If you choose to play, 2 things - post if you can't take your turn, and try to have each turn played in 48 hours, maximum. Oh, and please ensure you save the game in the 'Original' Folder, or bad things will happen

Any takers?

1. STYOM
2. Thoth - up next
3. Julius Brenzaida
4. LDiCesare
5. Vlad Antlerkov (on hold )
6. Jawn Henry
7. ??????
8. ???????

4000: A luvvly 2 whale start. First Blood founded, immediately. Archers from hut; First Blood is now building Settlers.
3950: Research begins with Alphabet.
3800: Go Ye Forth founded. Hut due east. Our Archer has located another hut.
3700: Alphabet - now trying for Ceremonial Burial
3300: Ceremonial Burial discovered - trying for Bronze Working.
3150: Lost Souls founded. Horsemen from hut near Lost Souls.
3050: Another hut located, S of Lost Souls.

[Thoth]

I'll have a go. I should have the results up in a couple of hours.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Great to have you aboard, Thoth...

I'll edit the play list as people join in.

STYOM

[Thoth]

3000 BC: A new leader has arisen. He finds the empire well, but small and with inadequate knowledge. The empire shall grow, both in size and in learning.

2950: Our horsemen continue to explore.

2900: Yawn.

2850: The art of working bronze has been discovered. Our shamans begin squabling over a code of laws to govern our empire by.

13g spent in Lost Souls to speed up settler production.

2800: First Blood grows to size 2.

2750: Go Ye Forth produces settlers. A band of warriors to explore the world are started.

2700: First Blood builds settlers. More wariors mext

2500: Sherwood founded on a forest to the northeast

2450: Lost Souls complets a settler. Another is started.
First Blood completes a warrior. A settler is begun.

2350: Go Ye Forth completes a warrior. More settlers are begun.

2300: Hutton founded to the south of Lost Souls.

2250: Code of Laws. Monarchy next.

2000bc: We're now up to 5 cities, with a settler in position to build next turn. We're making 4g a turn, tech 11 turns (Monarchy expected in 6 turns or so). We have a scouting party of warriors to the north, though it appears we are on an island. There are two huts within city radii (one near Go Ye Forth, and one near Hutton). I've left them alone until after we get to Monarchy. All 5 cities are currently building settlers.

[Julius Brenzaida]

Count me in
I have downloaded and will play today

[LDiCesare]

Hi, I would like to play. I will be without a computer for the first week of july (1-7) however. If I can take the turn after Julius, I will do, else wait a bit and see if there is still room.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Welcome aboard Julius and LDiCesare...

LDiCesare, Julius should be finished well before July 1 So, go ahead and jump in after he plays, and then when July comes up we can skip you until you let us know you're back.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

I'll join in after LDiCesare...

[Julius Brenzaida]

2000bc -1800 Following Thot’s wise words, I don’t open huts, waiting to become a king first. We’re on a nice islands with many nice spots for a powerful republic.
1750bc, we have 100’000 citizen now. Mar del Plata founded.
1700bc. Monarchy is discovered. 2 legions from huts.
1650bc Kingdom proclaimed.
1350bc. We discover currency. Trade is next !
1250bc. Special One is founded.
1000bc. In Between is founded.
975bc. Trade is discovered. Safe Haven founded.
925bc. North Star is founded.

[Julius Brenzaida]

I overplayed for a few turns, but there was not much happening. I really like our starting location. There is one spot for a new city left in the south. An eleven city republic with heavy trading looks good to me. But it’s up to my successors to choose a path. First Blood is building the Colossus, but maybe Marco our the Garden will suit better ...
Here is the saved game.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

List updated!

**HINT** Colossus would be nice but HG would be nicer! Can't imagine a gigamap with lots of cities and no HG

Naturally...advice is just advice, of course...

[LDiCesare]

I am downloading and will post reply soon. As for HG, it all depends on whether we reach pottery before the statue is finished...

[LDiCesare]

925BC: LDiCesare is proclaimed king. A quick check of the best cities shows Ulundi is barbarian ruled. Zulus shouldn't be much of a threat in this game. We are researching Writing.
Rush buying a settler in Lost Souls where people started complaining. Rush buys warrior in In Between to maintain order.
900BC: Setllers at Lost Souls. Rush buy temple in Special One which is going to grow. Sherwood switches from settler to Caravan. In Between builds warrior, starts a new one in order to maintain peace.
875BC: Temple built in Special One, switch to caravan.
850BC: Building roads to connect our capital to camel farms.
825BC: Writing discovered. Map Making comes next (7 turns). English start Pyramids. In Between revolts, warrior coming one turn late, but we now reach 300,000 souls...
800BC: Mar del Plata rush builds settler before red faces appear.
775BC: 2 settlers spawned, switched to caravans. In Between works on caravan too.
750BC: Moving settlers to build a city south. I will turn the forest to plains for better growth and avoid lost land squares.
725BC: Hutton builds settler, switch to caravan. Go Ye Forth switches to warrior which will go maintain order in our soon-to-grow capitol.
700BC: First camel produced. On its way to help wonders.
675BC: Warrior en route to First Blood. Go Ye Forth switches to camel.
650BC: Map making discovered. The royal gardener suggests researching pottery. 8 turns to go. Warrior defends First Blood.
625BC: Southern harbor founded. There is just a little spot near a lake in the north of our island that remains unsettled.
600BC: 400,000 inhabitants. Looking at the 5 best cities, Uppsala shows city walls. Thus vikings know masonry. Mar del Plata switches to trireme and will soon start exploring (starts tickling).
575BC: Special One builds food caravan. Caravan delivered in First Blood. 8 turns left for Colossus. The royal gardener is appointed head of scientist in order to speed up research.
550BC: Nothing extraordinary. Either I settle near the lake, or I go build roads and irrigate around Special One. But building now would cause people to become unhappy. Those at Special One warn that, should the settler not come to their city and make the landscape pretty, they will revolt. King LDiCesare hesitates, but the royal gardener suggests that flowers in the landscape are always a nice thing, so the settlers will plough the fields, build roads and put lots of pots of roses along the roads. This should inspire the scientists in the city.
525BC: Noth Star builds settler, starts trireme. Southern harbor starts caravan. Trireme built in Mar del Plata, starts exploring and discovers a lots of whales in the sea. Immediately inhabitants leave their fields and turn fishermen. Having sighted the whales, the captain of our glorious ship, the Unsinkable, sees that a small spot of land lies to the west. Leaving the safety of the coast in a bold move based only on his confidence in his own sight, the captain turns west and discovers a new land. The fact that this land is not part of our island seems to prove that worls isn't round, but flat.
500BC: Mar del Plata revolts themselves. Fishermen and farmers fight one another as the city grows. The mayor orders farmer to stop riotting and sing songs to praise our glorious whalemen instead. He urges construction of warriors to put farmers to work. The trireme follows the coast of the new found island to the north. Safe Haven looks like it sould revolt soon. The mayor sings a song to soothe the populace.
475BC: Mar del Plata is pleased with the songs of the fishermen, and all is well in the kingdom when something stupendous happens. The royal gardener enters the king's bedroom unexpectedly and tells the king that the scientists have just discovered the means to turn bronze statues into big flower pots. The king, surprised, asks the royal gardener to prove his words. Now the king wonders. Should we learn seafaring when we have coasts nearby? Or horseback riding which leads the path to elephants? Or literacy to get a Republic? Literacy is rumoured to be in favour of the AI, so it is chosen. Lost Souls builds a new food caravan.
450BC: The gardener decided to steal money from the treasury, corrupted lots of builders and, according to his boasts, managed to turn a huge bronze statue into hanging gardens. At this point, using caravans would lose shields, and the royal gardener, getting old, felt like finishing his dream before his death. Meanwhile, the Vikings are rumoured to start on pyramids. Awakened by the celebrations in the streets, the king looks through the windows and sees hanging gardens. He decides that this is worth boasting, and immediately orders building of an Embassy so we can tell all the other civs how good, powerful and mighty we are. He commissions a man called Marco Polo to supervise the works. Immediately, camels deliver workers to help the work.
425BC: In Between builds SILVER caravan, which First Blood badly wants while another caravan helps building Marco Polo's. Mar del Plata builds its warrior and switches to settler. Our trireme comes back to its home city to take some troops to explore the island which looks like a big one. However, the chief architect of the Colossus project, mad after seeing all his glorious statue vut to bits and turned into flower pots, launches a coup. The royal gardener dies amidst his beloved flowers, and king LDiCesare is hurt, and abdicates, leaving the kingdom for his successor, Vlad Antlerkov, to rule.

We are 6 turns for new techs, literacy researched. Our treasury is 157 gold, with 13 revenue per turn.
First Blood is the greatest city in the world, Mar del Plata the third. We have a population of 540,000, our demographics stats show us first everywhere except military, where we are seventh. Time will come when this changes.
I have built roads with our settlers, and one city. Mar del Plata just starts building a settler, so if someone wants to change that to a building, do it now. A library could be nice there in fact. I explored a little with our boat, but decided it would be better to send troops to scout the continent. It would take 2 turns to move the horsemen from hutton to the boat.
I hesitated between food and silver for the last caravan. Since silver was demanded by First Blood, I ecided to go for it. It should produce one or two additional arrows when it reached destination and I am building caravans almost everywhere else anyway.
I mostly wanted to build the HG and explore a bit. Next turn will be exploration-rich. One trireme discovered land to the southwest, another one is being built to the northeast and could be rushbuilt if needed. Marco Polo could give us a few maps and gold if the AI forgets being silly, and we should be able to trade at least literacy with them when we find it. Now, Colossus and LightHouse are open options instead of Marco.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Ah nutbunnies.

The game unzips fine, but crashes when I try to load the damn thing.

I guess I'll sit out this one...

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Since this seems to be the universal solution to ToT problems, I'll be the first to say it:

'Vlad, do you have the 1.1 patch installed?'

When I get home I'll see if I can download it, and let you if it's just you.

Also, to everyone... I think we can upload the saves in un-zipped format - even in a gigamap my first save uploaded fine. That should avoid most of the zip/unzip problems..

Or is it bad etiquette to waste storage capacity here?

STYOM