The Sweetness and Light Game

[Scouse Gits]

Bob_Smurf42 Welcome to the Academy ... you play next

Thank you BM and SCG for keeping things moving so well

La Fayette and Lagomorph you're on the list

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SG(2)

[Bloody Monk]

SG's,

A ruling on popping offshore huts, with exploring dips before Fundy, has been requested. Thankyouverymuch.

Monk

[Scouse Gits]

Yep ... I will alert SG[1] about this ... the game is his baby

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SG(2)

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

sign me up...

With me playing it'll be that much more challenging for the rest of you

[Scouse Gits]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
sign me up...
With me playing it'll be that much more challenging for the rest of you

You're in

You won't have trouble with this one ... too many rules

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SG(2)

[Bob_Smurf42]

This will be interesting...
I *should* be able to play tomorrow, or Mon. at the latest.
15 turns sound right?

[Scouse Gits]

Clarification of rules ...

Anyone who does not consider a Diplomat to be a military unit has never played with M LaFayette!
However, given the rules as stated - we must consider their use as explorers a legitimate exploit - we had actually considered the use of carrier- aircraft combos for exploring as the only loop-hole -- how wrong can you be?
Off-continent hut-popping prior to Jihad is forbidden!

SG[1] - he gives and he taketh away!

[Bloody Monk]

Excellent!!

The logic of the rules holds.

Now, let's learn how to make maps so we can build a boat and go find some trade stops...with diplomats to explore as we go.

Unless...one supposes that Explorer units would also pass muster....

Monk

[Bob_Smurf42]

Good King Bob surveys his realm...
Dissedents gather around the palace, demanding to colonize other islands. To show his benevolence, Bob grants them their wish- if they can swim to a new island, they are welcome to stay there. King Bob, too wishes to leave , but is afraid to.
He has had a vision, a man who called himself "[1]", urging him to take power, but warning to not leave the "continent" (island) until the people can be organised and banded together.

975: German capitol moved to Hamburg
Beggarsville settler sent to mine for special near Point of Grace
Dip disbanded towards collosuss
950: Found Green Meanie
875: Mean City settler mines for special near Beggarsville.
850: Babylonian capitol moved to...Babylon???
Heaven's Gate builds temple, starts settler
Over 200,000 citizens!
825: Americans start HG
800: Discover Literacy, pick Pottery from Horse Riding/Masonry/Mysticism/Republic/Trade/Warrior Code
775: Babylonians start Pyramids
Point of Grace settler starts road between Green Meanie & Heaven's Gate
750: Green Meanie builds warrior, temple next
725: Romans start Pyramids
700: Beggarsville builds temple, starts warrior
Beggarsville settler starts road on newly built forest
675: Heaven's Gate builds settler, begins library
650: Heaven's settler finishes up Green/Heaven road
625: mean settler starts road-Beggarsville>Heaven/Mean City

Some of those high in the governmental ranks report that Kinb Bob has taken to being alone of late. He spends much time thinking, and often refuses to eat. One morning, his loyal servants come to his room, but is locked shut. Bashing down the door, they find King Bob kneeling before an altar, in an almost comatose state. Not being able to arouse him, they return to give the news and await a new leader. He has left but a scrap of paper as to his intentions:
We should get Pottery next turn-I would change Mean City to HG, or possibly GL

And the save:

[SCG]

Originally posted by SCG
1450: Germans build palace in Leipzig
1300: Babylonians build palace in Nineveh? looks like its going to be one of those games
1050: Romans build Palace in Veii? yep, one of those games

Originally posted by Bob_Smurf42
850: Babylonian capitol moved to...Babylon???

Looks likes its going to be one of those games where the AI plays musical capitals

Originally posted by Bob_Smurf42
We should get Pottery next turn-I would change Mean City to HG, or possibly GL

You'll get a lot of support for HG and a lot of robust constructive criticism for suggesting the GL - a lot players here consider the GL a handicap rather than a bonus in solo play, as it balloons research costs.

[Bloody Monk]

@Bob

Welcome and congrats on your first turns.

Herewith is a bit of gentle criticism/suggestion. Reading the log and looking over the save, bells went off at...

675: Heaven's Gate builds settler, begins library

Why?? A Library costs 1g maintenance every turn, and in a city contributing one beaker, a library will be no help at this time.

Maybe this is a case where nothing leapt to mind when trying to decide what to build next. That happens. Here is a tip from a memorable discussion many years ago: "When there is nothing else to build, make camels."

Now I know camels won't be available until Trade, but the principle still applies. Build a dip that can be disbanded into our Wonder. Now, that would have been a better play, I think. It is still early enough in the build that switching to dip now will lose only four shields.(hint, hint)

Monk

[Scouse Gits]

Well done, Bob

Yet another (Robust) Constructive Criticism:
It takes longer to road a forest than to road grassland - put the road in before mining for the special.
& to echo Monk - dips make excellent 'poor man's caravans'.

Once more welcome - hope you enjoy it here - even if it does get fairly hot in the kitchen sometimes ...

SG[1]

[Scouse Gits]

I had genuinely thought that HG or GL was irony.
If not, You have to be joking!

SG[1]

[Scouse Gits]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
Unless...one supposes that Explorer units would also pass muster....

As you well know, Friend Monk, an explorer can capture a city by direct assault (if it happens to be empty) - it is therefore de jure & de facto a military unit!

SG[1]

[Scouse Gits]

Play Order

SG[1]
SG(2)
Bloody Monk
SCG
Bob_Smurf42
La Fayette
-JRabbit
STYOM
obiwan18
Old n Slow

SG[1]