OCC v2.42 random map succession game

[Paul]

500 AD save sent to SG[1]

1 AD Start WLTCD, size 6
20 AD Aqueduct
Mysticism
80 AD Build Dye Caravan
100 AD Egyptians: trade Seafaring, Warrior Code; share maps; peace
Germans: trade Banking, Horseback Riding, Wheel
120 AD Salt to Berlin (demanded): 284 gold
140 AD Astronomy
End WLTCD, size 12
Sold Colosseum
160 AD Indians: trade Iron Working; share maps; peace
220 AD Germans: gift 75 gold
Sold Temple
280 AD Philosophy, Medicine
300 AD Trade Engineering; gift 150 gold
340 AD Hut: 50 gold
360 AD Copernicus' Observatory
380 AD Germans: 200 gold for war on English
420 AD Bridge Building
Dye to Berlin (demanded): 304 gold
460 AD Sanitation
500 AD Zulus: they want 250 gold; I refuse; war

Website updated
[This message has been edited by Paul (edited January 27, 2001).]

[Bereta_Eder]

Watching and learning

[Hueij]

quote: 140 AD Astronomy End WLTCD, size 12 Sold Colosseum

Aaaarrgggh!!! Do you know how much trouble I went thru to build that colosseum? Starting with Republic and no Construction? And you tear it down, just like that?...



The most satisfying part of my turn was when I had to pay 50 gold for peace with the Germans and got a 250 gold gift the same turn

[This message has been edited by Hueij (edited January 27, 2001).]

[Scouse Gits]

Game sent to skrobism & Paul

I guess I can play to 1000AD ?

0500 - Looking good ... what can I mess up?
0520 - Zulus kill our Warrior, German caravan at the gates, Indian! archers just ouside city limits;
0540 - Barbarian landing 3 Legion + King - oops
0560 - Invention -> University
0580 - Barbarian on Silk puts city in disorder - damn didn't catch that one! ; Swamp now Grass
0600 - Barbarian Legion destroys itself against our invincible Archer
0620 - Germans, 250g; Zulus demand 450g, War; Egyptians want war with Indians; Indians maps;
0640 - Maps all round;
0660 - Shakespeare's Theatre; University -> Theory of Gravity; Germans 100g; Egyptians & Indians both refuse alliance; Zulus still intransigent;
0680 - Celebration does NOT start despite having 6 happy and 6 content!! rush Sewers anyway ...;
0700 - Barbarians in lake! three Legions Settler under threat!; Sewers built - no growth - perhaps a food problem with our guests, but ...
0720 - Settler lost; One Legion bites dust ...; Intrepid Archer sallies forth and defeats wounded Legion to revenge the lost Settler - stupid move really!
0740 - Harbour built growth to 13
0760 - Theory of Gravity -> Chemistry (Germans have Demo); Size 14; Zulus Peace; Germans Democracy ;
0780 - University built; Maps with Germans & Zulus; Barbarians again from South ; Size 15
0800 - Size 16; Germans 100g; Zulus ask for 50g for Alliance - then renege!
0820 - Barbarians at the Gates, Archer girds loins for battle.
0840 - Two Legions self immollate against our walls - King captured for 150g; Chemistry -> Gunpowder; Size 18; need 40% luxuries to maintain celebration;
0880 - Size 20;
0900 - Gunpowder -> Metalurgy (no Explosives); Size 21 cannot celebrate anymore;
0940 - Democracy established;
0980 - Metalurgy -> Explosives
1000 - not in bad shape - could be unpleasant with later Barbarians ...

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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[Daddy-O]

I got the save. I will play very soon.

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"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys."

[Paul]

Website updated.

[Daddy-O]

I just sent the save to Hueij and Paul. Here is my Hx.
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0-1000AD Barbs land, our archer stands strong
1-1020AD Copper caravan built, we need defenses Musketeers started, our archer continues to fight the good fight
2-1040AD Explosives -> Economics. Barbs continue to fall to our Archer.
3-1060AD
4-1080AD Musketeers built and fortified. Engineer started. Economics -> Conscription
5-1100AD
6-1120AD
7-1140AD Conscription -> Navigation. Engineers built Sir Newton's College started.
8-1160AD All Caravans set to help build Wonder. Engineer busy irrigating.
9-1180AD
10-1200AD
11-1220AD Navigation -> Physics
12-1240AD
13-1260AD
14-1280AD
15-1300AD Indians get navigation for fuedalism, they want Gunpowder for Polytheism. We refuse. India demands Gunpowder and gets nada! India establishes a copper trade route with Rome. Physics -> Atomic Theory
16-1320AD
17-1340AD
18-1360AD Barbs land! Musketeer fights off the hords. Rushed Newton's College. Atomic Theory -> Chivalry
19-1380AD Rifleman being built. Science at 390!
20-1400AD
21-1420AD Chivalry -> Steam Engine
22-1440AD
23-1460AD Riflemen built, Caravan rushed
24-1480AD More Barbs to the north. Steam Engine -> Railroad
25-1500AD Science is at 414.


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"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys."

[Tom DeMille]

Greetings! This sounds like a fun twist to occ. Checking out the strategy section i see i'm a few "fortnight" games behind. Don't really have time these days to play full games, but this would be right down my alley. Put me down for the next game you start...

[Paul]

Tom, welcome back. The fortnight games aren't exactly fortnighly anymore since the departure of you, Vik and Oldman. So you haven't missed too many games. And I will definately put you down for the next OCC succession game.
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[Hueij]

quote: This sounds like a fun twist to occ.

It is. Most of the time your predecessor did things you wouldn't do, so it breaks your "normal" OCC-routine...

[Paul]

Website updated.

[Scouse Gits]

Tom - Welcome back!

skrobism - I don't understand the Musk & Rifle? I would have thought that the need was for something on four legs to catch the king or to pre-empt pillaging? Can you explain?

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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[Daddy-O]

Wow. I think my judgement was attacked by 2 players in only 2 posts. Oops.

Can I explain? Hmm. Ok here it is.

There were a few times that I was really afraid for Rome because it had only 1 true defender. He is a very noble Archer and seems invincible, but he was alone. It was my intention to build a defender that would be fortified within the city. I suppose building a defender that could roam the city radius would have been another option. But again it was my intention to have him stay put, so why waste the effort of creating something with 4 legs? Besides, I like things that go BANG!

I am pretty sure that was my thinking at the time. I did not expect so many Barb attacks. Trust me, when I saw that Barb King sitting there on our North Coast without a defender, I wanted a horseman.

edit: maybe 'attacked' was a bit to strong of a word. How about 'challenged'?

A bigger concern than troup selection for me is that I am selecting the correct Techs and Wonders. Do you have any suggestions on that?
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"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys."
[This message has been edited by skrobism (edited February 02, 2001).]

[Hueij]

quote: A bigger concern than troup selection for me is that I am selecting the correct Techs and Wonders. Do you have any suggestions on that?

You might want to take a look at Paul's OCC-site, AKA the Paulicy. And don't worry about a 100% science rate if needs be, the Germans more than make up for lost taxes in gifts.

I already played a few turns and I changed the caravan you started into an engineer. I also diverged the science-path to refrigeration so we can max out with WLTPD. And sorry, the archer and the musketeer are gone

[Scouse Gits]

Sorry, skrobism - I did not mean to 'challenge' you just to ask for clarification - after all the good old Archer was invulnerable to Barbarian attack (see the GL for the details) so you must have had a rationale for building the more modern units ... I simply asked for the details.
I really enjoy these Succesion Games - if only for the wide variety of strategies that we encounter.


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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven