Civ2 in Schools?

[finbar]

The first kid who builds the Eiffel Tower in an all-human MP game should be put on yard clean-up duty for 110 years.

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[Fiji]

CIV (I and II) could help to explain some key moments in history

Cortez with 1 (veteran) musketeer unit conquers south amerika defended by warriors

Native amerikans in small villages get overrun by riflemen

the USSR has trouble getting it's army forward because of bad roads and absent railroads in WW2

[Simpson II]

When I was at university, the library computers would have CivII installed for about a month per year. Apparently this was because the management course included a module in CivII! You actually had to write a 5000 word paper on the game.

[Shadowstrike]

I doubt that 5000 word essay would have been a real problem to any devout Civer...

[jcarkey]

Well actually, besides being used for the historical aproach, you could use it for probability.
A Vet. Musketeer has a defense value of 5,(The value is rounded up if it it is odd, correct?) and a Hitpoint value of 20. What are the chances of it surviving a cruiser?

It could also be used to teach logic and strategy. That would be good at Military Academys!

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[SCG]

quote: Originally posted by Shadowstrike on 08-21-2000 08:37 PM I doubt that 5000 word essay would have been a real problem to any devout Civer...

heh, just look at some of the OCC log overviews I bet some of those come close to that

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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King

SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince

*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*

[Shadowstrike]

If you come to think about it, Civ2 can be used for a lot of things... Math, History, Geography, Common Sense, Computer Skills, etc.

It would probably work well in schools, if you could get it past the nearly insurmountable obstacle of school boards.

[Tom DeMille]

Come on people, school isn't supposed to be fun!

[Julius Brenzaida]

Well,

I am a teacher in history somewhere in Europe.

Sorry, I would not use CIVII for my classes.
It's a great game, but just a game.
And as many have already said, it is not meant to be historicaly accurate.

On the other hand, CAREFULLY played at home, after homework that is, it could help stir interest in history.

And yes, school has never been meant to be fun

[tonic]

Ultimately education is about understanding principles, getting some insight into what makes the world tick. Does the simplistic "linear" view of history presented by games such as Civ give an insight into how civilization developed? In other words is an fragmented or skewed view better than no view at all or should we expend more effort into making a game specifically for teaching history where developments and discoveries are very much a function of the forces at work at a particular time in a particular human environment, rather than as a rigidly proscribed sequence of fixed events. My bias is apparent.

[Caesar]

Yeah, but it would be a lot of fun. I'll find some teacher, play some serial MP. Small map duel, kick his ass... It won't take more than a few lunch periods

Anyway, honestly, its a horrible idea. But I'd love it.

[tonic]

It's every "older" person's nightmare, being thrashed in an MP game by someone and then finding out he's only 15! This is in flagrant breach of established historical protocols for the hierarchy of due educational process.

Edit: corrected malapropism!
[This message has been edited by tonic (edited August 22, 2000).]

[Shadowstrike]

However, if we can find some scenarios which are historically accurate and entertaining, (i.e. Red Front, Mongols, etc.) children could be learning and having fun at the same time.

Now, I'd like to see a kid win Red Front on the first try...

[Hodad]

I first played SC2000 at school... we were doing Geography and urban planning in 1994!

[N35t0r]

when i was in 4th grade, i was the only one to know the capital city of china

thanks civ!