Office of the Armaments Ministry

[greeny]

Citys in the Rear areas are shifing from improvments to unit production or will be soon. But what hardware do our front commanders need?

MORE KV-1s? (take longest)

Katuskas?
Sturmoviks? Both take quite a long time but airbases are needed first for Sturmoviks.


T-34/76s? (or wait until the 85mm gun model is avaliable?)
Su-122s? Both built quite quickly Su-122 looks the most cost effective to me.

[PinkyGen]

Won't the T-34-76's get upgraded anyway when the 85 mm gun comes online? In fact, it might be a way to get cheaper T-34/85's by building T-34-76's and having them get upgraded.

[yop73]

Don't they lose their veteran status when upgraded???

[greeny]

yeah, they do

[PinkyGen]

I'm not sure, but our current tech tree is already aimed towards getting those tank design anyway. If they lose veteran status, I guess we can favor building them in non-barrack cities if we have any. However, even they lose veteran status, it is a way to get cheaper tanks.

If we want veterans, than I say Katyusha's or SU-122's, and sturmovicks in the few cities with airfields. We seem to be building sturmovicks nearer to the front, so I don't think we'll need to construct any more airfields in the Urals to explicetly build any more of those planes.

[greeny]

I've just done a test and the T-34/85 is actauly CHEAPER than the T-34/76! Represents impoved industrial effciency I guess. So I think we should definatly wait for Mobile Warfare III before we build more T-34s.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by PinkyGen
We seem to be building sturmovicks nearer to the front, so I don't think we'll need to construct any more airfields in the Urals to explicetly build any more of those planes.

We are but we should eventually build a third Urals airport, maybe in Kirov after industry pops and the steel mill is built. That way we could ship out up to THREE units per turn! (And build veteran aircraft in THREE places if we need too!)

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by greeny
I've just done a test and the T-34/85 is actauly CHEAPER than the T-34/76! Represents impoved industrial effciency I guess. So I think we should definatly wait for Mobile Warfare III before we build more T-34s.

It also simulates that the T-34 as it was developed got cheaper and easier to build during the war. Thats one of the many "Tank" facts I learned from FMK. (Where the heck is he when you need him! )

[PinkyGen]

Agreed, airport is good for airlifting purposes, but not for the point of the original discussion, that I said we didn't need to convert the Urals into a Sturmovick producing region.

As for the T-34/85's improved effeciency... Then I recommend Katyusha's and SU-122's, for the capturing of German cities.

[Bossy20000]

We must be carreful not to build to many Sturmoviks, as they are of little use in the winter! If we wnt to have large winteroffensives, we will need more tanks, katyushka's, red guards etc. It's nice to have sturmoviks in the summer, but we will have to retake cities this winter, and hterefor we need ground troops. I have nothing against the sturmoviks, but we only seem to concentrate on them (although this could be because we talk so much about them)

[The ANZAC]

I think we could all use a lot of Katyushas. And maybe some assault guns.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I'd advise against building planes in the Urals. It takes quite a long time to fly them to the front lines... really, where we can, we'd be better off building planes near the front and airlifting tanks from the Urals.

T35-85s are good in the open... but they're not much good at taking cities. Xin was right about that - you can win the game building almost nothing but KV-1s, Katyushas, AAs and Shturmoviks...

The great thing about Shturmoviks is the multiple attack features... if you have to capture a city with 60 Wehrmacht in it, being able to attack 10 times with each plane is a Marxsend! Having said that, they do nothing against German 88s. So use the Katyushas to knock out the 88s and then Shturmoviks to mop up the rank and file German units.

[Colwyn]

I concor

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
I'd advise against building planes in the Urals. It takes quite a long time to fly them to the front lines... really, where we can, we'd be better off building planes near the front and airlifting tanks from the Urals.

T35-85s are good in the open... but they're not much good at taking cities. Xin was right about that - you can win the game building almost nothing but KV-1s, Katyushas, AAs and Shturmoviks...

The great thing about Shturmoviks is the multiple attack features... if you have to capture a city with 60 Wehrmacht in it, being able to attack 10 times with each plane is a Marxsend! Having said that, they do nothing against German 88s. So use the Katyushas to knock out the 88s and then Shturmoviks to mop up the rank and file German units.

I have found that tactic working well on the belorussian front for taking germans cities.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Bossy20000
We must be carreful not to build to many Sturmoviks, as they are of little use in the winter! If we wnt to have large winteroffensives, we will need more tanks, katyushka's, red guards etc. It's nice to have sturmoviks in the summer, but we will have to retake cities this winter, and hterefor we need ground troops. I have nothing against the sturmoviks, but we only seem to concentrate on them (although this could be because we talk so much about them)

Currently we are producing 3 labor brigades, 1 red army, 1 naval infantry, 4 KV-1s, 1 T34/76, 7 Katyushas, 6 AA batteries, 1 LA-5, 9 sturmikovs, 1 destroyer, 3 cossack cavalry, 1 NKVD trooper, 3 Su-122 tanks hunters and 17 Red Guards.

So, while we may be producing too many sturmikovs, we aren't focusing on them soley, and the number should drop soon, I believe that Moscow and Gorkiyy may both be changing their production, but I'm not sure of that.

[EZRhino]

Since we will soon be on the offensive, we should start producing more katyushas.