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  • #61
    Re: Re: Action Plan for Jan 1942 ---> end winter

    Originally posted by conmcb25
    How does one uncover hidden terrain improvements?
    By pressing "t".
    Sea Kings TOT

    Sors salutis/ et virtutis/ michi nunc contraria,/ est affectus/ et defectus/ semper in angaria./
    Hac in hora/ sine mora/ corde pulsem tangite;/ quod per sortem/ sternit fortem,/ mecum omnes plangite!

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    • #62
      Action report Jan 42

      About 18 German divisions killed in and around the Pripayrt Marshes by partisan activity.

      German hedgehog destroyed near moscow (see pic) by local partisans.

      Various german units killed entering or about to enter the salient.

      6 Bombers destroyed on the ground.

      For some reason I cannot save as JPG (pc problem)
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      Pavlov Zangalis - Hero of the capture of Berlin RFDG.
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      • #63
        colwyn's pic:
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        • #64
          Re: Re: Action Plan for Jan 1942 ---> end winter

          Originally posted by conmcb25
          Where (screenshot please) is it a good defensive location? Will it help to continue hindering German spawning and infiltration just to the north of Vitebsk?

          Can it be built and hold till we build units and improvements in it?
          This is a proposed plan for a limited offensive in the belorussian salient that will require a simultaneous offensive from my northern commander to take back Kholm at least this winter. (this will allow me unaposed time in winter to create these cities and get things organised)

          This will even out the front and provide our troops in the region a city to rest in to at least hold back the germans a bit longer in summer 42 should they attempt a mass attack.

          Call it a buffer zone, we can use penalty divisions to man them and other undesirables like prisoners to build/settle them.

          Ideally each front city should have 1 KV and one AA, to act as blocking units.

          The 2 red russian arrows indicate a larger and more risky manouver(greater reward though)not reccomended unless substational forces (not likely as Yarasolv was not building lots of cossacks in summer) become available.

          I also cannot stress enough my dissapointment that the fleeing refugee's were withdrawn so far from the front line's(my troops rounded up a few and have put them to work this winter) rather than resetling cities close by that could be providing Red guards per turn this winter. We need troops now not big tanks in 2yrs time!

          What are the traitors doing near Yarensk! They should have founded a new city and begun industrialising now.
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          Pavlov Zangalis - Hero of the capture of Berlin RFDG.
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          • #65
            your tactics are quite new for me, I've never thought on building new cities the way you do before,
            maybe one or two in the rear of the defensive line, but but I see that it works
            Second President of Apolytonia, and Vice-President twice
            Shemir Naldayev, 1st Ukrainian front comander at the Red front democracy gamePresidente de la Republica de España in the Civil War Demogame
            miguelsana@mixmail.com

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            • #66
              Yes this is new to me too

              Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
              your tactics are quite new for me, I've never thought on building new cities the way you do before,
              maybe one or two in the rear of the defensive line, but but I see that it works
              Its amazing how I've played the game differently when I have a smaller front and thus can focus/spend more time on it.

              You also become more depended on your own cities and reinforcements so creating new ones becomes important.

              We'll see how well it all goes in Summer 42 as these are all new attempted plans.



              Order in Chaos Comrade!
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              Pavlov Zangalis - Hero of the capture of Berlin RFDG.
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              • #67
                yes, now I care about any single unit, I have everything in my front under control
                way different from a normal game
                Second President of Apolytonia, and Vice-President twice
                Shemir Naldayev, 1st Ukrainian front comander at the Red front democracy gamePresidente de la Republica de España in the Civil War Demogame
                miguelsana@mixmail.com

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                • #68
                  Re: Re: Re: Action Plan for Jan 1942 ---> end winter

                  Originally posted by Colwyn
                  This is a proposed plan for a limited offensive in the belorussian salient that will require a simultaneous offensive from my northern commander to take back Kholm at least this winter. (this will allow me unaposed time in winter to create these cities and get things organised)[/SIZE]
                  Comrade have you coordinated this with the NW Front Commander? We should have been discussing these strategies in lenght last fall. I would have to check but I dont believe the NW Front has recieved any of the new T-34's yet.

                  Originally posted by Colwyn This will even out the front and provide our troops in the region a city to rest in to at least hold back the germans a bit longer in summer 42 should they attempt a mass attack.

                  Call it a buffer zone, we can use penalty divisions to man them and other undesirables like prisoners to build/settle them.

                  Ideally each front city should have 1 KV and one AA, to act as blocking units.

                  The 2 red russian arrows indicate a larger and more risky manouver(greater reward though)not reccomended unless substational forces (not likely as Yarasolv was not building lots of cossacks in summer) become available.

                  I also cannot stress enough my dissapointment that the fleeing refugee's were withdrawn so far from the front line's(my troops rounded up a few and have put them to work this winter) rather than resetling cities close by that could be providing Red guards per turn this winter. We need troops now not big tanks in 2yrs time!
                  Well again Comrade we should have discussed at lenght last fall as a group. I saw you were utilizing these workers therefore I left them alone in your sector. I did also lasso some refugees around Gorky with the intent of sending them forward but when I did NOT play the arms minister they wound up past Kirov the Following turn. I was going to pop a quick Industry in Gorkiy and then use them for this purpose. AGAIN we should have discussed this as a group last fall. This is a great idea but not "standard" RF strategy. Not everyone is going to think of this.

                  Originally posted by Colwyn
                  What are the traitors doing near Yarensk! They should have founded a new city and begun industrialising now.
                  I dont know? I would suggest you post in the Arms Ministers thread and suggest he do something with them.

                  This is EXACTLY why

                  number 1: Front Commanders and Ministers HAVE to work together

                  number 2: We need a strong Marshall position so that you guys will have to work together. (And Im talking about preserving the power of the position here)

                  Great plan hopefully you can coordinate it and get your flanking front commanders to support you.
                  *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                  • #69
                    The idea seems nice, but the North-West front has been understaffed and does not have all the most updated equipment. So I'm not sure how feasible it is. When were you planning on launching this offensive?
                    Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by The ANZAC
                      The idea seems nice, but the North-West front has been understaffed and does not have all the most updated equipment. So I'm not sure how feasible it is. When were you planning on launching this offensive?
                      Yes we have not adequetely staffed you for this comrade, if you are to do this you definately need reinforcements!

                      Keep talking!
                      *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                      • #71
                        To pull off such an attack along the Northwest front seems like folly to me. The germans have been advancing in that area almost unchallenged, it stretches my imagination to even consider such a broad stroke. However, I have looked at the save some more and it might be possible, however all reinforcements earmarked for the belorussian front would have to be diverted to the Northwest front for the next several turns. Also, the northwest front has received none of the new T34/74 or SU122 late model tanks. What does the Northwest front commander believe he will need in addition to the troops already under his command to accomplish this task?

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                        • #72
                          Probably just T-34s and Su-122s. I have enough units to hold my own, as I am stopping the Germans at Demyansk. I probably need tanks that have high movement points in the winter (ie T-34s and SU-122s) to be able to reach out and hit the germans. I like the idea. I just hope I don't overextend myself, I don't think I will.
                          Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                          • #73
                            I will so advise the armaments minister, production in cities close to the front will begin producing t-34s or su-122's for you to use in the coming attack.
                            Will the two commanders be kind enough give an estimate of which month this attack will begin? i realize this is difficult to do right now because we do not have a schedule of when the neccessary tanks will arrive.

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                            • #74
                              I will give my best estimate this evening USA time of what, where and when it will arrive.

                              Both assault force and follow up reinforcements.

                              BTW I need RUBLES!

                              If there is anything you can live without in your cities let me know. In the future Ill try and coordinate this better with Comrade Greeny but I've only been doing this job for about 73 minutes!
                              *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                              • #75
                                Will this attack succeed this winter? We have not so much time left. We could keep it for next year, and prepare it, so we might even go as far as the Baltic States! A combined attack from Leningrad and Smolensk/Vitebsk, together with partisan activities from Colwyn might do the trick, but we would need some preparations, so I think we should wait another year, and first finish the Finnish!
                                Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

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