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  • #16
    if nobody else wants to be the marshall i can take it, but i prefer a more experience player to take the marshal
    I'm doing this because I don't want this game to die

    does Henrik want to be the marshall??

    that about fmk it is very VERY weird, but everybody has his own life so...
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    • #18
      I guess I'm like the other will do it if I have too but

      If get to share the role with someone else from time to time and that I can still command a millitary command i'll be raring to go.
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      • #19
        Ok, so far we have two nominees then:
        Anzac and Shaka (possibly Colwyn?)

        Anyone else?
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        • #20
          Formation of Stavka to share Marshal job!

          Ok its obvious that no one realy wants the full time job of being the Marshal, it will involve a lot of organising and emailing of the participants to keep the game flowing. And under current rules the marshal was not going to be given a command!

          We have 3/4 people so far however who are willing to take the roll on part time and as such some of us have discussed the formation of the Stavka for up to 5 people who effectively become the organisors of the game and also elect from their numbers a current Marshal.

          If it is ok by the nominatee's, members of the forum and HT I offer up the current nomination to be on the Stavka :

          Hightower
          Anzac
          Shaka Naldur
          Colwyn
          and one other!

          Or if more people are interested we may need to vote?

          I really think this is the only way it will work long term as if we keep having to re-elect a marshal from scratch or wonder what to do when he/she is absent the game will founder.

          The advantage of our Stavka idea is that any one of them can back the marshal up in the event of any delay at his/her end. ie once the turn rules and procedures are set you only need at least one person in the Stavka to be "active" per day and not one marshal every day for the year say.

          Further more what do the nominators think about allowing the marshal having a front command? Stavka reps can still be commanders/ministers but the marshal?

          Personally I say yes b/c you need some reward after all that work and for me it would be playing a command.

          I only bring this up b/c we are foundering on the Marshal, not any other aspect of the game that has already been decided. Many people have emailed me re this idea so you better back me up now that I've posted it. If not you may find yourself in a Gulag, or will I?
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          • #21
            I support STAVKA and hopefully it will help us to get this game underway.

            yes, I put myself up for nomination

            it would take the burden off the marshal since no one here wants to take the full onus of it.
            Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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            • #22
              Sounds like a good idea to me. I support the formation of STAVKA.
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              • #23
                I'll go Marshal to start off at least..

                If the nominated Stavka can finalise the rules and ok the change to allow the marshall a command. ie in History Marshal Zhukov did command various fronts as needed.

                Hightower will be back in approx 2 days (can you confirm henrik) so we'll be able to finalise this proposal.

                Anyone else wants to be on the stavka 1 position left!

                Noiminations close this Friday, no voting needed if we don't get more than 5 nominations.
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                • #24
                  About the marshal being given a front command:
                  The marshall is the one who gives everyone their reinforcements, if he himself has one of the fronts, then it's going to be hard for him to be impartial, it's invetable that his own front will in one way or another benefit fromt he fact that he is the one who decides when reinforcements come, he'll also almost allways be able to get reinforcements while others may have to wait several turns as other fronts takes precedence...

                  The marshall allready gets to controll the partisans, I think that'll be enough really.

                  Hightower has asked me to hold elections in his absence, however I think we should have a vote on weter everyone supports your stavka idea or not before electing you marshal.

                  Oh and to anyone who becomes marshal/is placed on the stavka, I still want the baltic front
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                  • #25
                    I just knew someone was going to say that

                    Yes there could be a bit of a conflict of interest, but it seems the only way to get someone(stavka) to take on this role over the long term. Didn't Zhukov do the same?

                    However I have posted a new thread on what real time turn lengths we have, if we keep it strict then the Marshal could assume to get the occaioanal backup command when a commander does not take their turn on the day I supose.

                    This is assumming we go with that idea also.

                    Though if instead of a command the marshall gets the NKVD and navy as well as the partisans then i'd be happy for that compromise and maybe others.

                    As you said we should vote on all these ideas and get the aye's to say whether they are prepared to be marshal if they are part of the ayes that win. (there might be a few options but it should cover peoples ideas/conditions for being marshal.
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                    • #26
                      Well, no one has objected to STAVKA and the marshal would be chosen by STAVKA, so I guess it's fair game to say once we get he 5th slot filled STAVKA is in existence?

                      Also, I think that the marshal will not be pigheaded enough to focus on his front alone. And if so, STAVKA is the group that appoints the marshal, so we have a check there.
                      Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                      • #27
                        Originally posted by The ANZAC
                        Also, I think that the marshal will not be pigheaded enough to focus on his front alone. And if so, STAVKA is the group that appoints the marshal, so we have a check there.
                        Plus, in the real world, STAVKA didn't worry about allocating reinforcements in a 'fair' way. And generals hijacked supply convoys ... etc.

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                        • #28
                          Join us in stavka 6000 yo

                          We need one more nomination and you just posted so unless you want to go to the Gulags join us in our proposal.

                          Stavka is not hard just requires common sense, some loyalty and the ability to be active on the forum.

                          PS I find it weird that its Thurday morning for me and for you is Wednesday evening!
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                          • #29
                            Re: Join us in stavka 6000 yo

                            Originally posted by Colwyn
                            We need one more nomination and you just posted so unless you want to go to the Gulags join us in our proposal.
                            Uhhhhhhhh... ..okay.....

                            So long as I'm not expected to play I have a lot of succession game experience, but relatively little RF experience. And even less successful RF experience
                            "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                            "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                            "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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                            • #30
                              Doing your patriotic duty!!

                              Thanks, I don't see not playing as a problem in fact it would be good to have a non RF expert in Stavka, succession XP is even better!

                              You may even curb some ambicious ideas by the stavka too as there are some high risk manoveurs you can do in the game to get way ahead but if they fail it really puts you back a bit.
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