Proposed Amendments to New Government

[The ANZAC]

1.a. The Marshal cannot rule indefinitely. Politburo will hold sheduled elections to determine the Marshal.
1.b. The Marshal may be removed either by a popular referendum, or by the majority of the Politburo, or by a unanimous STAVKA decision.

2. Front commanders/STAVKA appointments must be confirmed by the Politburo. The Marshall still has the authority to remove a front commander/STAVKA member.


If you agree with the proposed amendments, vote "yes." I guess which ever choice gets the most votes, we will go with, no? Any questions/suggestions, talk about it here. Everyone has 5 days to vote.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I suppose I agree with them all, but point (2) will obviously require the Marshal's consent. Otherwise, the Marshal will simply sack a commander he doesn't want, regardless of how often the Politburo appoints said commander.

[Dr. Nick]

STYOM, the Politburo only would confirm (ie, the Politburo has veto power), but they won't go around naming commanders, that would still remain the Marshall's prerogative.

[The ANZAC]

Yes the Marshal submits who he wants on STAVKA to the Politburo, which then approves of the decision.

This is similar to the US Senate approving the President's cabinet officials. Clearer now I hope?

[conmcb25]

Well as a Proponent of a strong Marshall, I still dont like it. But thats just MHO!

[Bossy20000]

I agree with 1b, but not at all with 1a nor 2. The Marshal should have some (or even quite a lot) power. After all, he runs the war. And if we REALLY don't like how he works, we (the Poltiburo, STAVKA or a combination) can always send him on a vacation to Siberia.
I totally agree with comrade Knapovitch on this, we need a strong Marshal, with the Politburo as a counterbalance, but not as a dead weight on all decisions!

[Bossy20000]

Oh, what I forgot to mention, I think our Marshals until now have done a great job, and I think we shouldn't send them away just because their term is over. If somebody wants to take their place, go lobby with the Politburo or STAVKA and take his place like that. After all, we can't spoil any of our resources!

[The ANZAC]

As for the elections issue: he can still run for reelection as many times as he wants, just there will be periodic elections to give contenders a chance to usurp him. There is no limit to the number of terms a marshal can hold under these amendments.

Also, I hardly see the politburo would become a deadweight with these amendments. All these amendments do is allow for periodic elections where the incumbent can still continue and win in them, allow for orderly provisions to remove a marshal, and allow some popular sentiment to go into the selection of front commanders/STAVKA members. Hardly a destruction of the marshal's powers

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by El Awrence
STYOM, the Politburo only would confirm (ie, the Politburo has veto power), but they won't go around naming commanders, that would still remain the Marshall's prerogative.

I doubt there will ever be an impasse between the Marshal and the Poliburo - but there is the potential to be one, if the Politburo refuses to confirm a choice and the Marshal declines to select another choice. Sort of like a Democrat president faced with a Republican Congress...

[The ANZAC]

Well, I have faith they could find a compromise

It's split right down the middle I wonder what we'll do if it stays 50/50....I guess another round of voting

Come on people! Vote and voice your support

If you don't like these, please look somewhere else

H Tower: can you top this as this is somewhat important?

[H Tower]

If a few votes swing the results one way, I'm going to have to go looking for allies in the Politburo

[The ANZAC]

What, you thought being marshal would be a cakewalk?

[conmcb25]

I dont like it because the Marshall cant do anything to Front Commnaders without doing a "mother may I" at Politburo. This doesn't "destroy" the power of the Marshall but it certainly limits his power.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by conmcb25
I dont like it because the Marshall cant do anything to Front Commnaders without doing a "mother may I" at Politburo. This doesn't "destroy" the power of the Marshall but it certainly limits his power.

call it an extension of the game into a political realm. The Marshal will have some allies, some enemies, and factions will arise. From what I've heard, it has already begun.

[The ANZAC]

Originally posted by conmcb25 I dont like it because the Marshall cant do anything to Front Commnaders without doing a "mother may I" at Politburo. This doesn't "destroy" the power of the Marshall but it certainly limits his power.

He can dismiss STAVKA members, but it must be approved. I highly doubt the Politburo will completely block the marshal: the reason for having that check there is so we don't get STAVKA members in their positions who are not qualified.

Uh-oh, it's tied now