Where/ whether we should build the Civilian Donations wonder

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by greeny
Some good points have been made here, long term it looks like Gorkiy would produce the best benifit, especialy once it's road net is improved. STYOM makes a good point that roads in the Caucuses will produce bigger trade revenues and that has to be a priority. Gorkiy is currently building an armaments factory which will be finished in 4 turns so I think Civilan DOnations should be built after that. Meanwhile I think we should consider starting building it in a resonably high production city like Sverdlovsk or Astrakhan and then switch to a better wonder once they become avaliable so they can be finished quickly and free up our highest production cities (Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad) which will likely be on the front lines or close to then, for troop production.

I agree with this approach, lets wait and see what this next turn brings at the beginning of winter we start Civilian Donations in the Urals somewhere and switch to a better wonder once its discovered.

Sound good Ecomics Minister?

[Henrik]

An improvement/wonder shield is cheaper than a unit one though.

[Cyrion]

Improvement yes, but Wonder?? I thought the Wonder shields were even more expensive than the units one??

[Henrik]

I thought it was the same

Someone better check

[conmcb25]

What are you two talking about? I dont understand the question?

This is an extra trade producing wonder. It is the same thing as collossus (sp?)

[greeny]

They are talking about the relative cost of rushbuying a wonder shields compared to unit shields.

And I agree with the proposal to start it in Sverdlovsk in the Urals and then change to a better value wonder once one becomes avaliable.

[our_man]

STYOM, it's important to remeber that although this wonder only produces 21 extra trade arrows maximum, it also allows the Superhighway (Oil Refinery) benefit to come into effect, thus giving 42 trade arrows if built in the right city! Its benfit would be even further increased in a city during "WLTK" day.

I say build it in Gorky. You can get a nice money bonus by homing trade units to Baku and then airlifting them to this city.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by our_man
STYOM, it's important to remeber that although this wonder only produces 21 extra trade arrows maximum, it also allows the Superhighway (Oil Refinery) benefit to come into effect, thus giving 42 trade arrows if built in the right city! Its benfit would be even further increased in a city during "WLTK" day.

I say build it in Gorky. You can get a nice money bonus by homing trade units to Baku and then airlifting them to this city.

True enough, re the Oil Refinery point. But then, the Refinery isn't cheap either - that's a few more turns spent building that, or rubles expended - and the 42 hypothetical arrows it would produce won't happen in Gorky. Gorky isn't size 20, it's only size 10, IIRC, so only 22 arrows extra. In Moscow or Stalingrad, sure, we could get 40 extra arrows or so (once the tiles are all roaded - and not all of them are... so we need more Labor Brigades to have the full effect). But again, do we really need those arrows so badly? We'll get more 'bang for the ruble' building a different wonder.