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I concur with Yaro 100% here. We can do some good natured ribbing, and point out facts about the record of opponents but please do not take it personnal or let it get out of hand.Originally posted by yaroslav
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POTUS, don't take it personal. This thread is about politics and even if we would have no critics about One Israel we should worked up some in order to have elections material
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And to all the guys here: that thread is what citiziens needs to know who are they goting to vote. I only ask everyone to remember that we're posting here with the [party hats] on, so don't take it personal, don't use names to call people and so on. Until now I've no complaints about any post in this thread, but remember to keep it civil, as it is by now. Thank you all
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Vote Centre are you're voting for efficiency. I ask you for take a visit to the fronts and ministers of the Centre party and see what we've done: that's our best commercial!
Our rivals says: 'peace,peace all the way' or 'static defense (agressive war), static defense all the way', we say SURVIVAL
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Or else Yaro will close this thread faster that feces through a goose!
*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- BetaComment
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What about the rumor that a certain party member eats puppies? Is that allowed?
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No, you are for static defense, ONE ISRAEL is for victory!!!!!Originally posted by yaroslav
Our rivals says: 'peace,peace all the way' or 'static defense (agressive war), static defense all the way', we say SURVIVAL
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Our rivals says: 'peace,peace all the way' or 'static defense (agressive war), static defense all the way', we say SURVIVAL
The only way to survive without self-termination is by making our neighbours our friends, not our enemies!Follow the masses!
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It is my opinion that the forces outside East Jerusalem are NOWHERE near powerful enough to break through the defences of East Jerusalem. One or two more artillery pieces would not have made the critical difference at this point.Originally posted by POTUS
I am enraged and insulted that EmuGod, one of the most strident supporters of beefing up the defenses in the Judean Front now opposes those forces that at the time were necessary to save Jerusalem. I beg you to consider the fact that if the Defense Minister had supported fighting for West Jerusalem now, we might be less than a turn away from taking the Holy City. Instead, he has forced us to wait at least 2 more months for that vital objective.
I do not deny that I have missed turns, but look at what has happened when replaced by our president. There was huge problems later on with the management of the unit production that were hard to put back on track such as in Ein Gev, where the city continued to build already completed projects. In other areas we have also had mismanagement problems of our industrial resources when the president was managing them, which I hardly call competent management.
Our generals complain of lack of artillery, which is true due to a lack of resources. Perhaps if the kibbutznicks in Judea and Samaria had been assigned to the defence of the towns there and not to road building that more offensive forces could be built as the cities would be ready to defend against the Jordanians.
Operation "Three Wise Men" did not save West Jerusalem as we might think. The city was lacking the defensive units, but they were being built up to protect the city and would have survived the Arab assault. The operation almost led to a disaster in Tel Aviv, if I may remind everyone.
In terms of offensive strategy, Centre is devoted to a limited offensive strategy until the appropriate forces are ready to attack the Arab forces in the area. Beseiging East Jerusalem is premature when the Jordanians can bomb our units there and possibly destroy and damage some before using their artillery to pound them.
I would also like to add that as defence minister I have provided some artillery that have not been used for any purpose yet, such as some in preparation for attacks against Beer Sheva, which may still be vulnerable. Vote Centre, and you will get a leadership devoted to protecting ourselves and lauching the best counterattack possible against Arab tanks. We will build a strong defence capable of defending Israel.
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They would not have survived the assualt. There were 3 Arab artilleries on the hills surronding the city. Without that operation, Jerusalem did not have a chance. And, road-building is important. How do you expect to get to and from the citites if not by road.Vote Democrat
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Originally posted by El Awrence
Elections are rubbish. The army, now that's efficient.
Can't argue with that logic!
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You're a fast learner. Damn right you can't argue!Originally posted by Crimson Sunrise
Can't argue with that logic!
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Not when the guy who gives you the troops is not there most of the time.Vote Democrat
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I echo what POTUS said on the necessity of the Three Wise Men Operation. Jerusalem would have most likely fallen, and barring that, we would have needed to spend a huge sum of money to constantly replace the defenders being destroyed by the Arab artillery. I believe the besiegers of East Jerusalem are also in a fortress, so an air attack will not destroy the force.
I also find it hardly fair to blame the President for problems he took over from a "derilict" minister. (ooc: not meaning to be personal too). The President had little guidance of what specific programs were being supported by the Defense Minister, and muddled through a complex system with minimal disruption.
No matter which party gets elected, we are going to face a fiscal crunch in the next six months unless the Diaspora forces abroad send us more money.
Edit: Forgot my patriotic picture.
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or by eliminating them !!!!!Originally posted by Stefan Härtel
Our rivals says: 'peace,peace all the way' or 'static defense (agressive war), static defense all the way', we say SURVIVAL
The only way to survive without self-termination is by making our neighbours our friends, not our enemies!GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71Comment
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The electorial campaign is over.Follow the masses!
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fortuantly will be another one soon, and the people of israel need to be kept informed ....GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71Comment
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Not very fortunate, considering the party can only lose political power from our current peak.Originally posted by Rasputin
fortuantly will be another one soon,
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