How to do elections: Discussion here

[PinkyGen]

I assumed we would be using PM's, not e-mail.

[POTUS]

Ok. When you said mail, I thought you meant e-mail.

[EmuGod]

Why four people? Yaroslav is a member of the Centre Party but is also impartial and I know that I don't need to look at ballots if he does. If he counts the votes gives me the results, I trust that he is being honest.

[Nilat]

Javier is a honest Spanish person! Pm's!

[yaroslav]

The problem is not me being honest or not - I thank you for your high opinion about me, that I think I don't deserve.

The problem is that the PM system is not anynomus

[EmuGod]

If anyone is going to see who voted for who and to be honest about it, then yaroslav, PinkyGen and Ben Kenobi are good people to do so. I think they can be trusted.

[POTUS]

Ok, ok. I just thought four people, one for each party and an impartial person, to ensure that everything was accurate. I completely trust yaroslav, PinkyGen, and Ben Kenobi, but, what if someone forgets to count a person?

[PinkyGen]

I'd prefer more than one person looking at it. I trust Yaro too, but mistakes can happen.

[PinkyGen]

Ok, the election will start once the current March turn ends. An election thread will be posted with the details on how to vote.
Votes are to be PM'd to Yaroslav and the three party leaders, me, Emugod, and Ben Kenobi. A party leader can opt out of seeing the votes if he wishes, just tell me before I start elections.

Elections will last for a week from the posting of the election thread, then the rest of the time before the May turn begins will be making any changes in government and military that is necessary, depending on what the voters decide.

[conmcb25]

I still say the way to ensure a FAIR, is to post your votes in the thread.

Can anyone who really feels they need an anonymous vote post it here?

I think we need to decide whats more important, fairness? or being anonymous?

Because any system that ensures being anonymous is going to be open to cheating and mistakes. Im not saying it is going to happen just that people can always wonder about those systems.

I see everyones point about being anonymous and I wish we could do that but based on the experience of the last election, I REALLY think we need a vote in the post.

[EmuGod]

PinkyGen, don't you mean to organize before the April turn and not the May one?

[PinkyGen]

Originally posted by EmuGod
PinkyGen, don't you mean to organize before the April turn and not the May one?

Isn't that what I said. Elections shall begin when the March turn ends, and shall coincide with the April turn. We shall be playing the April turn and holding elections at the same time!

Con, I know the PM system is more complicated, but unless all of us people from all three parties looking at the votes are crooked, it should be fair.

[yaroslav]

I'm BUMPING this thread

because we should start the elections right now, but I'd like to have unanimity if possible between the three parties before starting them

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by PinkyGen
Con, I know the PM system is more complicated, but unless all of us people from all three parties looking at the votes are crooked, it should be fair.

It takes more time and effort, therefore it will be a pain in the but.

Dont expect me to run the elections then, the only Im going to do that is if we all post the vote in a thread.

and what about the occassional lurker? You expect him to send a PM to three people? (Or whatever the numberis?)

This Demo game is suppossed to be a game for us not a career!

I just cant fathom why we wouldn't want a simple accountable system thats easy to reconcile when we have a hard time finding people to play the turn on a regular basis.

Keep it simple and easy, it ENCOURAGES participation.

[POTUS]

Well, it isn't so hard is it? And, we are looking for a way where non-citizens, i.e. lurkers and others who just happen upon this can't vote and mess us up.