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    Introducing the North Front. The North Front can be divided into a Siryan front...
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    And other cities bordering with Lebanon
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    • #3
      It's gonna be difficult to defend the cities northen to Tiberiades, even if TIberiades is conquered. So I wonder what are you suggestions... Defend them with AA fighter, machineguns, etc... Or try to build fortresses in the mountains?

      And what amount of units are you, the politicians going to aport to the front?
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      • #4
        All of them should have city defenses.

        Metullah is on a mountain, an excellent defensive position, especially afer it builds city defenses. I suggest perhaps machine guns, Hagganah, or AA units.

        Mishmar Yarden is on a river, which can be somewhat helpful, and perhaps you should try to put some defensive units on the hill's outside, though I think maybe once city defenses are built there as well, the city itself would be more defendible.

        Kafer Szold is the weak point. It is on grassland, and the hills nearby can come under the guns of Syrian forces in their mountain forces.

        As for what units we can supply, your fellow party member EmuGod is building those.

        I also think that in addition to taking Tiberias, we should use the Zion workers to help extend the railroads out there, at least as far as Tiberias.

        All of these are just thoughts, not orders. I hire generals so I need not concern myself with such things.
        David Disraeli
        Economic Minister of Israel and former Prime Minister. Founding Member of One Israel, Exodus Democracy Game

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        • #5
          I agree about Metullah. However I disagree about city defenses... they are useless against tanks, and the Siryans are going to come with planes and tanks. I prefer to have an aditional machinegun than City Defenses... I think that Metullah could resist, but the other cities are doomed unlesss significant reinforcements are sent...
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          • #6
            For planes, we'll either have to send our own planes, or at this point, send AA. As for tanks, they may have be preemtively attacked, perhaps the AI won't give them a defender as well...
            How soon until the Arabs start using tanks?
            Also, aren't the British border guards there, so you'll have a few turns to make defenses?
            David Disraeli
            Economic Minister of Israel and former Prime Minister. Founding Member of One Israel, Exodus Democracy Game

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            • #7
              In my single player game I found that Metullah survived for a while with just Machinegunners and AA guns built there. Unless we get rid of Arab spies, you can o**** on Mishmar Yarden to be bribed and Kafer Szold to fall due to that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by yaroslav
                It's gonna be difficult to defend the cities northen to Tiberiades, even if TIberiades is conquered. So I wonder what are you suggestions... Defend them with AA fighter, machineguns, etc... Or try to build fortresses in the mountains?

                And what amount of units are you, the politicians going to aport to the front?
                hi ,

                some cities shall be poorly defended , like tiberias , ....

                build road to get more money and move the troops faster , machine guns to defend , AA in the core cities fortesses are a waste of time , just send a unit there and fortify it there , it shall get a 25 % bonus , ......

                just dont forget about the arab gunboats that make our waters unsafe and try to sink our ships , ...... (!)

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                • #9
                  The situation of the North Front is displayed in the image attached to this post.

                  Akko has been conquered, giving us a free way from Haifa to Yehi'am. Inside of this city (Yehi'am) there is an arty unit who will destroy the guards near Safed that stop us to going after Tiberias. Next turn that road will be open, and my soldiers will go to Tiberias. If general Azazel and I are able to coordinate an offensive, Tiberias could fall, and the Golan reinforced.

                  Although I like a lot the units built, I ask for more units, because ALL the syrian army is going to attack us in that cities. Metullah is the easiest to defend because it is build in a mountain (200% percent defense bonus + plus city bonus + plus fortified bonus).

                  Question open to debate with all citiziens: we should try to stop the lebanese in Nahariyyah or to take more offensive positions against them, ocupyin the nearby mountains and forts? (I vote for stading at Nahariyyah)

                  Is Safed a political objetive? I'd ask politicians for all me to delay its conquest until the Golan is secure. The Golan is our priority. Without Golan, the Sirian army will enter in Israel and all will be lost.

                  So I ask humbly to our Chief of Staff to ask politicians for more units in our three Golan cities - a lot more (maybe some AntiAir units, specially as you can see enemy fighter nearby)! Kafer Szold specially...

                  From my own part, I'd more than happy if we're able to resist in the Goland and liberate Tiberias and Safed. If we're able to resits, we can use our arty units to help the Home Front.

                  There is an arty just south of Akko. If needed, I can use it and the Haifa infantry to try to launch an attack against Nazareth, if the Home Front Commander agree or could give the units to the Home Front Commander. However, I'd like to conserve the unit if possible for future use rather than using it in the Home Front.

                  I've left Akko and the arty unit unprotected because no enemy activity have been detected. If the Chief of Staff is unhappy with this, there is a Haghana unit free of movements in Naharryyah who could be use to provide protection to the arty and the city.

                  I'm willing to hear yours opinions!
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                  • #10
                    I would like to make stands at those hills north of Nahariyyah and Safed (Safed I would also like secured after Tiberias, if only to make sure our roads are unhindered to the Golan). Of course, there are some British units there in the way.

                    *curses*

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                    • #11
                      Good job, on both taking the city and attatching a picture so everyone in the peanut gallery can clearly see what is going on.

                      I agree, the Golan should be the number one priority. Part of me also wants to take Safed. However, if Safed remains Palestinian, but is isolated from the rest of cities, it may hold up possible Lebanese offensive's in the area, since they won't be able to use the road.
                      David Disraeli
                      Economic Minister of Israel and former Prime Minister. Founding Member of One Israel, Exodus Democracy Game

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                      • #12
                        REPORT FOR NORTHERN FRONT

                        Nahariyyah has been a great victory, my compliments. It would seem that you are short on artillery, I shall be putting all my pressure to have some artillery built in Akko, Yehi'am and Nahariyyah so that the offensive on Tiberias may be undertaken.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yaroslav
                          that cities. Metullah is the easiest to defend because it is build in a mountain (200% percent defense bonus + plus city bonus + plus fortified bonus).
                          There's no such thing as a city defense bonus (exept if the city has walls / defenses)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by N35t0r


                            There's no such thing as a city defense bonus (exept if the city has walls / defenses)
                            I believe you may be in error. My experience in numerous PBEM's and scenarios have shown that geography always affects defense. It is much harder to capture cities on rivers, hills, and especially mountains.
                            I know terrain is also a factor in city defense in Civ1 and Civ3. Why else do people build cities on hills and mountains but for defense?
                            David Disraeli
                            Economic Minister of Israel and former Prime Minister. Founding Member of One Israel, Exodus Democracy Game

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                            • #15
                              I meant extra defense because of the city.

                              A standard (unwalled) city atop a hill has no extra bonus apart from the one the hill gives...

                              just clarifying, so that people are aware that a troop on a hill has better chances than one on a grassland city with no walls.
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