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  • Foreign Affairs, Part Ii

    Let's offer King Hydey some general advice on how we would like our foreign affairs handled.
    (We all know how much King Hydey loves his foreign affairs!! )
    17
    Homeland Diplomat Policy -- always have some on hand for defense
    5.88%
    1
    Exploring Diplomat Policy -- send them out to explore and get embassies
    41.18%
    7
    Nasty Diplomat Policy -- use them for city bribes and tech stealing
    35.29%
    6
    No Diplomat Policy -- build Marco Polo's Embassy instead
    0.00%
    0
    Banana Policy -- diplomats armed with bananas never lose in Civ2
    17.65%
    3

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  • #2
    It has never seemed to me that Dips do much in the way of defending. I say send them out to find other sivs and establish embassies.

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    • #3
      They are good on defense for 2 reasons.

      1. Use them to bribe barbs, reducing need for defensive units in cities. Usually with a single bribed unit, you can defuse an entire barb invasion.
      2. No upkeep costs -- critical in a representative govt.
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      • #4
        the science minister suggests using the diplomats to help close the technology gap that has opened

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        • #5
          Originally posted by -Jrabbit
          They are good on defense for 2 reasons.

          1. Use them to bribe barbs, reducing need for defensive units in cities. Usually with a single bribed unit, you can defuse an entire barb invasion.
          2. No upkeep costs -- critical in a representative govt.
          I agree about bribing barbs, and even incoming enemy units (which you did not mention). I was thinking in terms of against other Dips.
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          • #6
            I think stealing some techs would be a very good idea.
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            • #7
              Nasty diplomat policy

              this sounds like music to my ears

              Shade
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              • #8
                Looks like it's going to be hard to maintain a "peace and defense" approach if this is how we use our dips...

                Your Foreign Minister strongly advises that we use diplomacy for exploration and defense.
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                • #9
                  Re: Nasty diplomat policy

                  this sounds like music to my ears
                  maybe a little nuancation:
                  eg. if the japanese keep attacking and act agressively then I would have no problem letting our diplo's having some fun...
                  but if the play nice-->we do so to.

                  Shade
                  ex-president of Apolytonia former King of the Apolytonian Imperium
                  "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." --Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
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                  • #10
                    That's better, Shade. Thx.
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                    • #11
                      Before trade I sometimes reach the delima of not wanting to support more troops or pay for city improvements, and the need to build something. So diplomats searve a purpose there, I have had armies of 15-20 diplos at my disposal and ransacked a attacking civ, and then some just hang arround and become spy's
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                      • #12
                        Tech stealing would be a good idea to close the gaps in some tech areas. I think bribing will not be such an important factor as I did remember from studying the screenies were are short on gold most of the time. Of course establishing embassies may also be a good idea but in the first instance we should use them to gain techs.
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                        • #13
                          I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one to understand the power of a bunch of Banana Diplos
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                          • #14
                            With Hydey's Camel Army, we will close the tech gap quickly without resorting to tech stealing.
                            Plus we'll be rich.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                              With Hydey's Camel Army, we will close the tech gap quickly without resorting to tech stealing.
                              Plus we'll be rich.
                              And if we steal tech and get the wrong ones it will only slow our techrate down.

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