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  • Democratic Despot?

    hey all, i know i don't really hang around the democratic game section and whatnot, but i wanted to start a civ3 democratic game before but we decdided to wait a bit (endless patches that completely change the game, etc).

    anyway, i was just wondering if the democratic games should really be democratic all the time. i was thinking that the government of the civ would have a bearing on the physical (real) world behind it.

    for example, if you were in a democracy, the game would work as it does now. if you were in a monarchy, one person would have absolute rule but could appoint advisors of his own accord. etc.

    i think that such a system would make the game a lot more fun, having a president getting elected and then being asked to be called Comrade... i might even run if i could do that
    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

  • #2
    so the leader would be elected but nothing else would have to be democratic. I'm not saying I would support that, but here are my suggestions:
    despotism-prez rules all
    monarchy-prez appoints advisors who don't have to ask people stuff
    republic-prez and advisors elected, but advisors can still ignore people
    democracy-everyone elected and leaders must consult people
    communism-prez appoints, needs ratification of actions from scared-to-death advisors
    fundamentalism-prez renamed god, has total control over both the game and the people's lives
    anarchy-prez has no power, anyone can obtain the game and play a few turns then put it back (like an SG)

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    • #3
      exactly. i believe such a system would be quite funny / realistic.

      imagine being elected to a Despotism, but wanting to be completely Democratic. You'd have to go through the anarchist period, and lose 6 turns of your pesidency!
      "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
      - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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      • #4
        That would be pretty entertaining...I'd play a civ3 or 2 democratic game like that.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by UberKruX
          exactly. i believe such a system would be quite funny / realistic.

          imagine being elected to a Despotism, but wanting to be completely Democratic. You'd have to go through the anarchist period, and lose 6 turns of your pesidency!
          or just do it in time with the Oedo years and not miss a turn
          The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

          Hydey the no-limits man.

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          • #6
            or you get a despot that add a new rule==> no more ellections and renames himself to
            "Princeps perpetuum"

            SPQA has been overruled


            Shade
            ex-president of Apolytonia former King of the Apolytonian Imperium
            "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." --Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
            shameless plug to my site:home of Civ:Imperia(WIP)

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            • #7
              Until the military "accidentally" shoots the despot, of course...
              "For it must be noted, that men must either be caressed or else annihilated; they will revenge themselves for small injuries, but cannot do so for great ones; the injury therefore that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shadowlord
                Until the military "accidentally" shoots the despot, of course...
                and then you get a new despot that needs to be shot
                ex-president of Apolytonia former King of the Apolytonian Imperium
                "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." --Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
                shameless plug to my site:home of Civ:Imperia(WIP)

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                • #9
                  Or the Central American way - the Despot emigrates to Tonga with the Treasury - hmmmm.....
                  Consul.

                  Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                  • #10
                    Jokes aside, if you play as a despot - paying little heed to the public - you will lose your public and thus the game. You will need to include them in the game somehow for it to work.
                    The first President of the first Apolyton Democracy Game (CivII, that is)

                    The gift of speech is given to many,
                    intelligence to few.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, while we are playing the game in a democratic style, it does not work very well if we try and match the other forms of governments the game allows.
                      Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                      Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                      Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                      Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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