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  • #16
    Originally posted by SCG


    why would it be contrary to military strategy? having a particular wonder gives it great strategic importance - worth bypassing other cities to get to it and mop up the other cities later.

    Granted, since the AI fails to take advantage of most wonders, they will be of greater value for us to have than it will be to take from the AI (unlike another player in MP), but it does affect the AI as well to lose them
    Maybe I phrased that poorly...

    I meant that while we agreed not to build Wonders ourselves, we decided that it was OK to capture cities where the AI has built one. If we had forbidden ourselves to *own* any Wonders it would have meant we could not capture certain cities. *That* would have been contrary to our military strategy.

    Sorry for the confusion.
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    • #17
      Wow, this is a weird crosspost

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      • #18
        Originally posted by cavebear


        Maybe I phrased that poorly...

        I meant that while we agreed not to build Wonders ourselves, we decided that it was OK to capture cities where the AI has built one. If we had forbidden ourselves to *own* any Wonders it would have meant we could not capture certain cities. *That* would have been contrary to our military strategy.

        Sorry for the confusion.
        From memory there wasn't any discussion about whether or not we coulod capture Wonders, only a decision we couldn't BUILD them.

        But, since there was no objection to capturing Wonders....
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        • #19
          I recall some brief discussion, but it was quickly obvious that we had to be able to *capture* cities with Wonders or we could not wipe out an opponent Civ...
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          • #20
            i just thought we could take ai cities with wonders last, thought it would leave more civs around later and make the game a smidge harder...

            but i can see the rules clearly state that is wasn't the case, so lets progress forward
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            • #21
              The Birth of the Imperium

              The Reign of Pharaoh Whereitsat

              Around the fire, the great tribe of the Apolyton Imperium selected the Chosen One and his core advisors. Votes were cast and the die rolled. Eventually a mysterious figure rose from the smoke of the great indaba (Great Discussion usually held around camp fire). This figure, known only as Whereitsat, rumoured to be descended from the great Apolytons, lead us across the Great Plains.

              The Great Wandering Years

              Years passed. We now call this period the Great Wandering Years. During these centuries we battled barbarians, saw strange sites and discovered our world was random and chaotic. However, during this time we discovered that fate sometimes plays a cruel game. We learnt that to unite humanity under the leadership of the Imperium, to sow the seeds of our civilisation, we needed a base. To this end three bastions were founded. Called Dominion, Majestica and, our capital, Imperialis these cities served as the seed from which our civilisation would grow.

              The Tentacles Spread

              From these three cities, explorers went out. Other, smaller, civilisations were discovered, sometimes they proved to be abandoned, others, impressed with our vision of the future, lent us support. In some instances they choose to support the vision that is the Apolyton Imperium in a physical way, by giving us their armies or joining our Civilisation. This rapid show of support led to numerous issues. Financially, our fledgling Imperium was stressed. We had neither the gold, nor the population to manage such a ground swell of support. Some of our mighty army was disbanded to cater for the good of the whole.

              The Barbarian Horde

              During the course of our explorations some of the villages viewed submission to the Imperium as a form of assimilation. Such is the fear associated with the enlightenment we wished to grant. Instead of embracing us, they chose to attack us. These barbarian hordes, unprovoked, engaged us brutally and wantonly. In all instances the hordes were crushed on contact. Many chose to flee rather than face imminent defeat and slaughter.

              The Shining Beacon?

              In many ways, the stability of the Imperium shown as a beacon to those in our environs. To assist the Imperium in its quest, many of these lost outposts of humanity gifted knowledge to us. To this end we learned the value of script, called Alphabet, Code of Laws, Sea Faring, Map Making, Warrior Code and Bronze Working

              The Decadence of WIA and the Tentative Journey of 123John321 the Timid…

              Towards the end of the third millennia, Despot WIA became enamoured with a fantasy known as RL. Evidently drug induced, for so strong was its lure, that the citizens riled at the lack of progress. ‘We must rule’ they muttered amongst themselves. In the end WIA, in a moment of fantasy free clarity, did a noble and self-sacrificing thing, he abdicated and for a few short decades, the Imperium was governed by 123John321, hereafter known as John the Timid.

              From a much maligned past John the Timid, guide us through a critical phase, steering the ship of the Imperium until again the Chosen One could rise through the ranks and lead us to certain victory. New technologies were founded, including a strange spinning disc like device that our wise men called the Wholly Holistic Extreme Environmental Transport system, shortened to the WHEEL. In praise of John the Timid’s guidance, the N’Yanga’s of the Imperium discerned that we should worship the Chosen One and set about defining rites and observances, this will be called Ceremonial Burial. During this time our noble Imperium was further expanded with the city of Enron, however, extra resources were required to tame its wild and hedonistic population.

              In a show of dyslexic wisdom, and with the guidance of the Dogs (small pun), John the Timid called the people together and with the conjunction of the stars, the new Chosen One arose. As a sign of respect from the people, thus removing the previous stigma of history from the line 123John321, the title of Lord Protector and Keeper of the Sacred Chamber Pot was bestowed upon him and all his heirs.

              At the end of the reigns of Despot WIA and John the Timid in BC 1750 (Before Cohesiveness), the state of the Imperium stood thus according to 123John321 State of the Onion address* which shall close each successive reign of Chosen Ones:

              Cities: Pax Apolytonia, Enron, Dominion, Majestica and, our capital, Imperialis
              Technologies: Alphabet, Code of Laws, Sea Faring, Map Making, Warrior Code, the Wheel and Bronze Working.

              The Rise and Rise of the Imperium

              In a moment that would set the tone for our future civilisation, after the State of the Onion Address, the vote was called and only a few members of the Imperium had the courage to steer the Apolytonians towards glory. To this end in, by our reckoning, BC 1750, Cavebear was elected as the Chosen One.

              Wisely may he govern? The infidels will tremble.


              *State of the Onion, according to our recorded history, refers to an element of our civilisation whereby our historic leaders from the stars only made decisions after drinking Onion Soup and commenting on its texture. Hence, the State of the Onion.
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              • #22
                This kicks ass, atomant.

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                • #23
                  John the Timid!
                  Former President, Vice-president and Foreign Minister of the Apolyton Civ2-Democracy Games as 123john321

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                  • #24
                    I nominate atomant to be the historian for the remainder of the game

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                    • #25

                      'Wholly Holistic Extreme Environmental Transport'
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                      • #26
                        bravo well phrased !!!!
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                        • #27
                          I like it
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                          • #28
                            That was great!
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                            • #29
                              Let us all say how much we like it
                              TEIC

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by teic
                                Let us all say how much we like it
                                Ok.
                                I like it 7.549702. (Approximately)
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