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  • #31
    Originally posted by Guynemer
    I'd love to get my greedy little hands on a custom avatar. I've been here for a long time (lurking much of it, true), I've been a good citizen, and if it weren't for that bizarre OT rule I'd have had enough posts ages ago...

    Come on. Power to the people! Let the avatars run free!
    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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    • #32


      Nice avatar IW!
      I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ming


        And so do I (no surprise).
        At least it makes sense.

        So KH... as long as you aren't using it... anybody can.

        The artist makes a political statement by withdrawing his work. Picasso and "Guernica" spring to mind...
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #34
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse


          The artist makes a political statement by withdrawing his work. Picasso and "Guernica" spring to mind...
          Yes....but re-sizing a photo does not a artist make.
          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by drake
            Give me a goddamned break KH
            Why does the word "whoosh!" spring to mind when I read this post?
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lonestar


              Yes....but re-sizing a photo does not a artist make.
              Cropping, resizing and compressing...

              You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #37
                Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                Cropping, resizing and compressing...

                You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.
                So, have you actually copyrighted the kitten?
                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                • #38
                  Sheesh, it's just an avatar. I'd be flattered if someone else started using mine...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Lonestar


                    So, have you actually copyrighted the kitten?
                    Not necessary, IIRC. Preferable to actually get notarised form, but only for proof purposes...
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #40
                      You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.


                      This is true, modifying public-domain then makes the derivative your property. No copyrighting necessary for it to stand up in court.
                      I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Skanky Burns
                        You obviously haven't seen the crap that people are allowed to copyright. This is a derivative work of a public-domain work; my rights to the work I did are protected under the law.


                        This is true, modifying public-domain then makes the derivative your property. No copyrighting necessary for it to stand up in court.
                        That's a pretty bamn stupid rule, IMHO.
                        Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                        • #42
                          orange,is that an anti-"anti-avatar wars" avatar?
                          Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
                          "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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                          • #43
                            "Mommy Mr. Fun is using my kitten avatar!"
                            Attached Files
                            I see the world through bloodshot eyes
                            Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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                            • #44
                              Confused Kitten...

                              Amazingly stupid thread (and yet I contribute...).

                              Copyright is a publication issue and an intellectual property issue. What KH says about his actions creating a copyright-able work is true. The laws, while ostensibly about IP are, in fact, designed to prevent economic harm to lawful rights holders. Further, enforcement starts with the IP holder, who must a priori stake his claim (the circle-C).

                              But here, there is no commerce and no intent of commerce, thus no real harm. In addition, this site/forum is a public place on which we dwell at the whim of the owners. KH chose to post (publish) his avatar on this public board -- on the Web!! -- without staking any claim to the "art" involved in its production.

                              There's moral right and legal right. You're batting .500, KH. Enjoy the moral high ground, but with no economic claim, no provable damages, and a faulty approach to protecting your intellectual property, you have no legal claim (especially to a public domain "version" that can be substantially -- and legally --duplicated.

                              BTW, that line equating graphic sizing and data compression to art is just too precious. All that did was cede squatter's rights...

                              OK, bored now. Y'all have fun.
                              Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                              RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                              • #45
                                BTW, per KH, that also should mean that RAH owns copyright to several of the Muppet avatars!

                                RAH -- Make them pay!!!!!!
                                Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                                RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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