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  • Does this forum bring out the nasty side of you???

    I just noticed that when I come here, I tend to get a little upset and am tempted to post a nasty message or two (see thread about "worthy" civs).

    It also brings out the argumentative and complaintive side of me. I don't do that on other discussion forums.

    I'm wondering if this is because:

    a. My being upset with the way Civ3 turned out.

    b. Civilization is a domineering, nasty kind of game.

    c. Internet forums just spill it all out.

    What do you think??? Just wondering...
    "I've spent more time posting than playing."

  • #2
    On the Internet, communication is obviously different to talking in person or over the phone. Since there's nothing for the receiver to receive except text, body language, tone of voice, etc. are no longer an issue. Because people can remain anonymous, and don't have to reveal body language and tone, they can at times be more blunt than they usually are. Some people do take offense to this bluntness.

    So I'd have to say option c mostly. But its not like the other two aren't factors as well. But if you're upset about a game, its important to note that there may be people who aren't upset about it, and are trying to have civil discussions about various aspects of the game. They don't appreciate it when a whiner hijacks the thread to complain about a related problem with the game. I know I don't.
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    • #3
      Well, I dont know about that Azreal, but can tell you this. The folks who called themselves desgining Civ3 didn't even have the professionalism to pretend to redesign the city improvements. Same old thing. Gag me. Even worse they created a new concept, culture, that just screamed for custom city improvements. This was just a wonderful opportunity for creating new and distinct building strategies, but NNNOOO.......

      I think they just flat goofed off instead of working is what I think.

      Not that I would hihack a thread to complain ....I mean, I am not nasty.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jimmytrick
        Not that I would hihack a thread to complain ....I mean, I am not nasty.


        Of course you wouldn't...

        "Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
        "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
        "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." -- Thomas Jefferson

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        • #5
          OT DEFINATELY brings out my angry side... so many leftists... urge to kill rising...
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          • #6
            It does and it also brings out my good side. Ever the pesimistic optimist
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            • #7
              My belief is that forums are places people come to disagree.

              A long time ago I heard a Monty Python comedy skit (ohh can't believe I admitted that) , about a man who went to a place to pay somebody to argue with him. If you have heard that skit ... that is what I think forums are sometimes.

              I think this happens in forums because people tend to respond to posts they disagree with, but feel less compelled to respond to posts they agree with. For a post they agree with, what they thought was already said! Hence, to posts people agree with, all they can say is usually "me too!". But to posts they disagree with, they have a lot to type.

              Also, there is no way to convey tone in type. I know for sure I have interpreted posts the worst way possible at times, when maybe they weren't meant so bad. For this, smilies are a must to convey tone!
              Good = Love, Love = Good
              Evil = Hate, Hate = Evil

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              • #8
                Ditto nato.

                I feel compelled to reply sometimes when I perceive something as unfair or hateful. That's my flaw (?). Unfortunately, I can get quite combative about it.

                OTOH. I have a blast sometimes with some threads (or sites). In others I learn a little or a lot, and sometimes I try to help other people in discovering things too.

                All in all, it's a mixed bag.
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                • #9
                  Nato, the thing is at apolyton, if I do a post saying
                  I agree
                  then I'll be banned for spamming.
                  Grrr | Pieter Lootsma | Hamilton, NZ | grrr@orcon.net.nz
                  Waikato University, Hamilton.

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                  • #10
                    Basically I am saying there is no point to posting "me too!", so many posts are only disagreements. This is true for all forums I think, without banning as a consideration.

                    Not a big deal, just a tendancy I think. The more substantive information people have to share, the less a problem it probably is.
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                    Evil = Hate, Hate = Evil

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                    • #11
                      Well, I'm not this unpleasant when I visit my fish forum. =)

                      I should have probably put up a poll since this will just spark more bickering than give any answers to my question.
                      "I've spent more time posting than playing."

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, but fish are so much easier to get along with.

                        Oh ho ho ho, I'm on a roll tonight ... much more of this and I'LL be getting banned!

                        Maybe that is a selection problem ... maybe people who like fish are calmer or more mature than computer gamers.

                        Besides, Civ has conditioned us to fight!

                        Also, I think having more info to talk about is a factor. I bet general and OT have more fighting than strategies and mods (right now I only hang out in general, so I wouldn't know).
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                        • #13
                          Actually, I didn´t think Civ III was that bad even in the first place. But then I came here and found so many ppl that was disappointed over the game, and I read about many minor things and stupid details I hadn´t even thought about before. And after a while, I was also into this whining choir about how bad the game was, even though I didn´t think so from the beginning. So I guess you´ll have a lot of influence writing here. AMOF, most of these post are just noncense...

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                          • #14
                            Generally, on this type of forum there are no rules for discussion. That means people can disagree and never have to compromise, or even listen to other people's points of view. This is different than a face-to-face conference, where standard rules of behavior and resolution are used.

                            The best tip I can give is to try and stay rigorously on topic (not always easy, I know).
                            Last edited by Zachriel; April 30, 2002, 09:56.

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                            • #15
                              I understand that people get influenced by what they read in these forums. You like the game, but then you come here and read about all this whining and dissatisfaction, and then you start to consider things differently; it is not like the forums have changed your opinion about the game, it is more a case of self-confidence: you don't want to be the only "moron" that likes a flawed game.

                              But to me that is simply lack of a formed opinion. And when we are talking about games, our opinion have to be based essentially on the fun factor. Is the game fun to you? If it is, then no matter what other people say, you tend to view it as a matter of taste. If it is not, you then join the whiners choir.

                              Sometimes, forums like these help us to understand WHY we don't like the game. It is not fun for you, but you don't know exactly why. When you come here and discuss about the things you think are not good enough to generate fun, then you receive a sort of feedback that points you sometimes on the direction you could not see before; it is then that you think: "that's it! That is why I don't like this game!".

                              Of course, when you discover that, you tend to "spread the word of it" throughout all forums and threads, you want to evangelize people, show them the light and the truth that will guide us to salvation. But that tells us more about human nature than about the game, I fear...

                              Edit: trying to minimize my spelling and gramatical errors.
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