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  • #16
    My word! My speed's fine, but it takes 4 hops just to get out of Cambridge!

    Tracing route to apolyton.net [155.207.18.1]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms route-cent-8.cam.ac.uk [131.111.133.62]
    2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms route-cent-3.cam.ac.uk [131.111.2.3]
    3 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms route-enet-3.cam.ac.uk [192.153.213.193]
    4 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms cambridge-bar.ja.net [146.97.40.49]
    5 9 ms 6 ms 6 ms pos11-0.lond-scr.ja.net [146.97.35.9]
    6 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms london-bar4.ja.net [146.97.35.130]
    7 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms geant-gw.ja.net [146.97.37.82]
    8 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms janet.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.103.149]
    9 84 ms 197 ms 224 ms grnet1-gw.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.103.182]
    10 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms athens-athens-2.grnet.gr [194.177.210.225]
    11 92 ms 91 ms 91 ms thessaloniki-athens-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.66
    ]
    12 124 ms 110 ms 91 ms auth-thessaloniki-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.138]

    13 95 ms 93 ms 107 ms cisco12-lane.ccf.auth.gr [155.207.199.112]
    14 123 ms 110 ms 95 ms vergina.eng.auth.gr [155.207.18.1]

    Trace complete.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Locutus
      No, Gramphos, Asher is correct. Overall everything is faster but avatars and graphics etc are indeed much slower now. It's got nothing to do with distance to host 'cause I'm experiencing the same thing and I'm even closer to Greece than you
      Yes, and it has todo with mime difficulties.
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      • #18
        Im 24 hops away from 'poly.

        Dial-up around here is shocking tho from all the rain, so all internet is slow for me.
        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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        • #19
          Here's a sample:
          Code:
          Tracing route to apolyton.net [155.207.18.1] over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1   260 ms   271 ms   260 ms  tnt13.dca5.da.uu.net [63.39.239.246] 
  2   260 ms   260 ms   261 ms  63.55.184.1 
  3   241 ms   250 ms   270 ms  259.at-3-0-0.HR3.DCA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.14] 
  4   250 ms   251 ms   270 ms  516.at-2-2-0.XR2.DCA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.36.50] 
  5   260 ms   260 ms   241 ms  194.at-1-0-0.TL2.DCA8.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.178] 
  6   261 ms   260 ms   271 ms  115.at-6-2-0.TR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [146.188.141.198] 
  7   270 ms   281 ms   270 ms  186.at-2-1-0.XL2.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.28.73] 
  8   260 ms   261 ms   260 ms  508.ATM7-0.GW8.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.20.1] 
  9   261 ms   290 ms   271 ms  dante-nyc1-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.60.250] 
 10   371 ms   370 ms   350 ms  grnet-dws.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.105.33] 
 11   411 ms   431 ms   420 ms  grnet1-gw.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.103.182] 
 12   430 ms   411 ms   430 ms  athens-athens-2.grnet.gr [194.177.210.225] 
 13   410 ms   431 ms   410 ms  thessaloniki-athens-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.66] 
 14   450 ms   431 ms   441 ms  auth-thessaloniki-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.138] 
 15   441 ms   440 ms   471 ms  cisco12-lane.ccf.auth.gr [155.207.199.112] 
 16   421 ms   430 ms   421 ms  vergina.eng.auth.gr [155.207.18.1] 

Trace complete.
          A few times, there were much higher readings for hop 11 (mid 800's) - UK to Greece, but the above was typical at about 11AM EST.

          Clearly there is a significant difference between the points on either side of the Atlantic, which would explain the general upbeat tone of the European posters. Nothing in these numbers particular jumps out at me though, except a generally mediocre speed, presumably not a function of Poly.

          My problematic Poly experience is that there is a long pause before the (respectable speed) delivery of data seems to start. That suggests to me that either there is a delay while the Apolyton servers gather themselves to reply or that there is a lot of separate brief chatterings back and forth initializing the contact which require many sequential round trips before anything substantial begins, thus multiplying and exagerating the seemingly not-that-terrible extra times.
          Last edited by johndmuller; February 12, 2002, 12:44.

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          • #20
            Peak Times:

            Code:
            Tracing route to apolyton.net [155.207.18.1]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   358 ms   348 ms   340 ms  192.168.250.200 
  2   473 ms   358 ms   338 ms  192.168.250.200 
  3   446 ms   349 ms   334 ms  172.16.95.26 
  4   332 ms   360 ms   359 ms  172.16.95.33 
  5   358 ms   340 ms   338 ms  213.120.207.201 
  6   440 ms   340 ms   347 ms  core1-pos12-.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.197] 
  7   336 ms   746 ms   347 ms  core1-pos13-2.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.229] 
  8   484 ms   881 ms   818 ms  transit1-pos3-0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.20.226] 
  9   500 ms   357 ms   417 ms  t2a3-p9-0-0.uk-lon2.concert.net [166.49.215.193] 
 10   329 ms   358 ms   378 ms  t2c1-ge6-0.uk-lon2.concert.net [166.49.176.11] 
 11   353 ms   351 ms   464 ms  t2c3-p0-0-0.uk-lon1.concert.net [166.49.208.122] 
 12   384 ms   380 ms   354 ms  t2a1-ge1-0-0.uk-lon1.concert.net [166.49.135.17] 
 13   347 ms   346 ms   360 ms  london2.gb.eqip.net [195.206.65.225] 
 14   336 ms   341 ms   464 ms  london50.gb.eqip.net [195.90.64.25] 
 15   374 ms   381 ms   415 ms  infonet.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.103.153] 
 16   463 ms   479 ms   721 ms  grnet1-gw.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.103.182] 
 17   694 ms   822 ms   495 ms  athens-athens-2.grnet.gr [194.177.210.225] 
 18   631 ms   701 ms   457 ms  thessaloniki-athens-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.66] 
 19   553 ms   798 ms     *     auth-thessaloniki-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.138] 
 20   544 ms   500 ms   478 ms  cisco12-lane.ccf.auth.gr [155.207.199.112] 
 21   646 ms   612 ms   739 ms  apolyton.net [155.207.18.1] 

Trace complete.
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            • #21
              Yes, Asher is right but for me the speed is still acceptable.
              In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
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              • #22
                Read and weep!

                Code:
                Tracing route to apolyton.net [155.207.18.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   148 ms   137 ms   132 ms  prometheus.dialup.ntua.gr [147.102.223.244]
  2   132 ms   125 ms   132 ms  router.dialup.ntua.gr [147.102.223.200]
  3   135 ms   139 ms   122 ms  quasar-blackhole.core.ntua.gr [147.102.224.46]
  4   169 ms   171 ms   174 ms  athens-ntua-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.129]
  5   170 ms   189 ms   218 ms  thessaloniki-athens-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.66]
  6   174 ms   167 ms   180 ms  auth-thessaloniki-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.138]
  7   165 ms   186 ms   200 ms  cisco12-lane.ccf.auth.gr [155.207.199.112]
  8   163 ms   172 ms   173 ms  apolyton.net [155.207.18.1]

Trace complete.
                And yes, the server has trouble loading some images
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                • #23
                  Code:
                    1    22 ms    39 ms    19 ms  24.67.0.1
  2    30 ms    20 ms     9 ms  rc2so-ge11-0.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.0.8]
  3    43 ms    22 ms    19 ms  VLN.Serialx-x-.GWx.POPx.ALTER.NET [157.130.157.41]
  4    14 ms    21 ms    18 ms  116.at-6-0-0.XR1.CAL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.137.154]
  5    17 ms     7 ms     9 ms  293.at-1-0-0.TL1.CAL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.136.74]
  6    83 ms    69 ms    67 ms  0.so-7-0-0.TL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.146.54]
  7    96 ms   112 ms    75 ms  0.so-2-0-0.XL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.118]
  8    80 ms    61 ms    82 ms  POS6-0.GW6.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.24.65]
  9    71 ms   103 ms    72 ms  dante7-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.254.250]
 10   146 ms   143 ms   144 ms  grnet-dws.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.105.33]
 11   252 ms   221 ms   217 ms  grnet1-gw.uk1.uk.geant.net [62.40.103.182]
 12   256 ms   223 ms   212 ms  athens-athens-2.grnet.gr [194.177.210.225]
 13   233 ms   221 ms   253 ms  thessaloniki-athens-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.66]
 14   227 ms   245 ms   231 ms  auth-thessaloniki-ATM.grnet.gr [194.177.209.138]
 15   227 ms   232 ms   261 ms  cisco12-lane.ccf.auth.gr [155.207.199.112]
 16   232 ms   274 ms   266 ms  vergina.eng.auth.gr [155.207.18.1]
                  Very good ping until it hits Europe.
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                  • #24
                    multiple server busy messages!

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                    • #25
                      The ping on mine was fine until it got to Greece.
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                      • #26
                        The announced patch was too mush for the server. I get database errors and server busy mesages all the time.

                        Time to close the OT
                        Creator of the Civ3MultiTool

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                        • #27
                          Ahhh, a patch announced...that explains why there's 600+ people here all of a sudden...I was wondering about the sudden rush of people...

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                          • #28
                            I am getting these busy messages too.

                            -FMK.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ixnay37
                              Ahhh, a patch announced...that explains why there's 600+ people here all of a sudden...I was wondering about the sudden rush of people...
                              Well, it will be worse tomorrow when they post the readme.
                              Creator of the Civ3MultiTool

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Gramphos
                                Time to close the OT

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