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  • #16
    Oh dear. Take an aspirin Ming.

    I won't buy into keeping post counts because post count reductions are allegedly a good threat. It's like advocating speeding on the highway because speeding tickets are a good deterrant.

    Besides, I don't even think it's that good a threat. The few people - if any - who like their post count but don't ever spam aren't the ones causing any problems. So where's the need for a threat. Another group of posters who also like their post counts and do spam are the ones causing problems. And I bet you they'd cease spamming if we dropped the post counts.

    I'm not out to make this personal or anything, but look at Mao (hi Mao!). When he reached the level of 10,000 posts where there was no reason to improve his post count anymore, he virtually stopped posting. Before that, he posted 10,000 times in 18 months. Why should other post count fidels act any differently if we dropped the whole thing. It'd be back to posting things of some value to others and nothing else. Just the way most people want it to be.

    Granted, there are other abuses than spamming that call for some kind of threat in order to be avoided, but spamming is by far the most common - and most disturbing - abuse on the forums IMO. And a short trip to Mingapulco has always seemed to cool down flamers, DL's and what have you. So we simply don't need post counts just in order to use reductions as a threat. That's what that swampy island is for.

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    • #17
      I would prefer to do without post count. I vote to do away with them.

      That said, it is not an important matter for me. I am flexible enough to enjoy them for what little they are worth, and ignore what I do not like about them.

      What i would really, really, really, like is a Chellspecker

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      • #18
        Like I've said before. Just like forums help to keep people coming back to visit a website, post counts help to hook people into posting on the forum again and again.

        That said....I'd like my post count reinstated....please?




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        • #19
          I have gone from being in favor of post count, and quite active about it (i.e. post count vote, etc.) to being totally indifferent towards post count. Funny how people change...

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          • #20
            I'll add my vote in favor of keeping the current system. Not for any practical purpose; I just like it.

            Murgatroyd
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            • #21
              <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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              </font><font size=1>Originally posted by Narck on 02-12-2001 11:21 PM</font>
              I have gone from being in favor of post count, and quite active about it (i.e. post count vote, etc.) to being totally indifferent towards post count. Funny how people change...
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              My theory is that if you have a custom title, it doesn't matter, since the title won't change due to your post count.

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              • #22
                <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
                <img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
                </font><font size=1>Originally posted by phoenixcager on 02-12-2001 11:18 PM</font>
                Like I've said before. Just like forums help to keep people coming back to visit a website, post counts help to hook people into posting on the forum again and again.

                That said....I'd like my post count reinstated....please?

                <img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

                So phoenixcager, are you in favour of keeping the post counts or getting rid of them? I honestly can't tell from your post.

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                • #23
                  Like Paul's idea - retain titles but link to length of time since registered not post count.

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                  • #24
                    If there is to be a debate or poll on post counts we should make sure that the balance of the votes/comments accurately reflects the "value" thye poster has added to the site. For example, in a poll, votes should be weighted as follows:

                    Diety: 10 Votes
                    Emperor: 5 Votes
                    King: 3 Votes
                    Prince: 2 Votes
                    Warlord 1 Vote
                    Settler Zilch

                    What do you think?
                    (+1)

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                    • #25
                      Hey, I'd be reduced to a mere Prince then, John-SJ!

                      the third idea doesn't make any sense to me

                      if the post counts don't influence the ranking system, we don't need them at all... at least I don't

                      either a time-based system or no ranks at all, that's what I say. or we keep the current one, I don't bother it.

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                      • #26
                        Keep the post counts unless you can come up with something better.
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                        • #27
                          I say any system is better than a post-count-based system, as the latter only encourages spam.

                          look at me to get an example

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                          • #28
                            The suggestion from Paul and John-SJ about making the titles dependant on registration dates instead of post counts is an interesting one. One could assume it would be like taking the best from both worlds - keeping some kind of ranking system (since quite a few people seem to like that), and avoiding spam attempts to get to a higher level. It could very well be proposed as an alternative to the current system of post count ranking.

                            Personally, I'm instinctively against any ranking system, be it based on post quantity or registration seniority. It simply doesn't supply any real information about the person posting. But that's not to say that I wouldn't prefer ranks based on registration over post counts; given the choice, I'd go with registration because it removes the incentive for some people to spam like madmen.

                            For now, this is just an informal poll of whether people want to keep post counts or not. So I'll just keep updating the tally on that in my first post. Maybe later on we could have a more detailed poll on whether to keep the ranks in one form or another?

                            andye,
                            I have to respectfully disagree. Each poster's view on this matter is equally important, not to be influenced by how actively they've posted in the past.

                            Edit: John-SJ, would you like to cast a vote on the post count issue at this point? Just say so and you'll be included in the tally.
                            <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by winston (edited February 13, 2001).]</font>

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                            • #29
                              Sure, I'll cast my vote for no post counts.

                              I do believe that it will remove at least one spam incentive.

                              John-SJ

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                              • #30
                                <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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                                </font><font size=1>Originally posted by winston on 02-13-2001 07:39 AM</font>
                                So phoenixcager, are you in favour of keeping the post counts or getting rid of them? I honestly can't tell from your post.
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                                I'm for the post counts

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