Hypocrisy of this damn place.

[Ted]

So basically he spoke harshly when you accused him of unjustly closing your thread. That about the summation of it?

[Winston]

Isn't it a bit far fetched then to ask other posters for their view on your problem when only Ming and yourself know what happened?

Maybe it's a real problem, maybe it's in your head. Either way you've got to make your way around it somehow.

It's infinitely easier to change any of our posting patterns than to turn Ming around. That's the way it is, and quite frankly, it works alright.

[Provost Harrison]

Maybe for once I am going to dig my heels in. I am not a bad person, I make friends easily, I am pleasant. I am not going to change my methods or mannerisms whether that results in 'discipline' or not...

[Ming]

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Well after what I can only describe as an unfruitful discussion with Ming on ICQ last night after he decided to close my thread in a quite unjustified manner
I would like to know why he has such a problem with me
when I do exactly as he does, all I get is abuse that I am just a spammer and never contribute anything good to the OT.

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When did I ever say you never contribute anything good to the OT. Your words, not mine. However, you seem to think that since you do contribute, it gives you the right to spam. That is not the case.

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He goes to ACOL and spams, he goes to CGN and spams, yet anyone who does the same here is squished.

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First, ACOL... I have broken no rules over there. They have different rules there. Spamming is against the rules here, but at ACOL, it is almost encouraged. As far as CGN goes, I have about 35 posts over there, gee I must be a spammer You might mention the rap thread, but even Reismark ended up unlocking the thread when he disagreed with the moderator...
AGAIN... SPAMMING IS AGAINST THE RULES AGAIN.

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I have never made DLs, I avoid flaming, I have trolled on only a few of my threads and have regretted it as it causes too much mess and unpleasantness.

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Just because you follow some rules, doesn't give you the right to violate others.

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I would just like the record setting straight on this one Ming. I am not some child, you are not my headteacher, thus I do not wish to be the victim of your condescending attitude towards so many people at this place.
I have never violated the rules, I have told you if there is something you are happy with to discuss it with me on ICQ. Why does no one else have a problem with me except you? If this does not yield, I will be going to the administrators on this issue.
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First, you are in the top 5 for complaints received about spamming... so it isn't just me. And when you spam, you are violating the rules here. You are welcome to disagree with the rules, but they are the rules. Just because you don't agree doesn't give you the right to break them. Feel free to take this up with the admin...

This thread is being moved to the Apolyton Forum where it belongs.

Now, yesterday, MarkG closed a thread in the Apolyton forum by Imran, and you went out and started a thread on the same subject... Here, I closed one of your threads, and you started a thread on the same subject.
So let me make myself clear... IF YOU START A THREAD ON THIS SUBJECT ANYWHERE, you will get a vacation.

No, you aren't a bad bloke, but when you break the rules...

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CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net

[Provost Harrison]

Well why don't these people tell me to my face? My ICQ is quite clearly visible, I do not hide away and attack in a cowardly manner. If you get this problem, direct them to me.

[MikeH]

Who else is in the top 5 for complaints about spamming? It does seem an odd thing if people are complaining to the mods about posters and not talking to them directly.


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[Ming]

You will have to ask them... All I know is that people complain. Five people seem to keep coming up as the worst offenders. Nobody else even comes close.

So you aren't the victim you make yourself out to be...


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[MikeH]

Well it must be Dookie, Provost Harrison, Andz83 and Alexander's Horse in 4 out of the 5 spots, not sure on the 5th.

[Ming]

Actually, I get very few complaints about AH.
And there used to be 6 big time leaders in complaints, but one of them doesn't post that much anymore, even though he is back posting again

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[Provost Harrison]

And what is the nature of these complaints against me? I am just concerned that they are so spineless they cannot tell me to my face.

[Winston]

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but one of them doesn't post that much anymore, even though he is back posting again


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...and his handle is also that of the default leader of one of the light blue civs in CivII (not Eleanor Roosevelt).

[Lefty Scaevola]

I have noticed that the fastest reaction from ming comes against threads that combine "spam" with "flaming" against a group, eg: a not serious thread that is anti some religious group or nationality. He ponces on these much more quickly than other spam. As for the coofee shop, which has long since lost most of its story telling aspect and become almost pure spam, it appears to have some sort of de facto exemption from the spam rule, but I have seen some Ming caution posted to it when flamming started to erupt in it.

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Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Pontificator Pendanticus
older richer & wiser than you
Did I mention that I like spellcheckers?

[Ming]

PH... People complain, that's a fact. We tell people if they have a complaint to contact us... they do!

They complain that you spam... They also complain that a few other people spam.

Why would they come to you with those complaints... all you ever say is that you don't spam, and that you don't break the rules

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Ming@Apolyton.net

[MikeH]

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Actually, I get very few complaints about AH.


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So I got 3 out of 5 right then?

[Lefty Scaevola]

I like an Idea that someone else posted. It was something like having a spam forum where only the necesary rule of no lible, no extreme flaming, etc aplied, but where every post reduce your post count. All the non serious fun you could want, at a proportional price.

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Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Pontificator Pendanticus
older richer & wiser than you
Did I mention that I like spellcheckers?