Hypocrisy of this damn place.

[Provost Harrison]

Well after what I can only describe as an unfruitful discussion with Ming on ICQ last night after he decided to close my thread quite in a quite unjustified manner, I would like to know why he has such a problem with me, when I do exactly as he does, all I get is abuse that I am just a spammer and never contribute anything good to the OT. He goes to ACOL and spams, he goes to CGN and spams, yet anyone who does the same here is squished. I have never made DLs, I avoid flaming, I have trolled on only a few of my threads and have regretted it as it causes too much mess and unpleasantness.

I would just like the record setting straight on this one Ming. I am not some child, you are not my headteacher, thus I do not wish to be the victim of your condescending attitude towards so many people at this place.

I have never violated the rules, I have told you if there is something you are happy with to discuss it with me on ICQ. Why does no one else have a problem with me except you? If this does not yield, I will be going to the administrators on this issue.

[-- but not Snapcase]

Chill, Winston! I doubt posting a thread here will resolve anything you can't discuss over ICQ just as well. So essentially, this is just an attempt by you to put extra preassure on Ming by holding the discussion out in the open. Now that's übertrolling!

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Well... um.... er...

[MikeH]

Come to ACOL and chill out for a bit.

Ming says he spams where it's allowed and I think that's OK. I don't really believe in spam as a concept. If I post something (I think is) amusing in a thread that isn't directly relevant, well I don't consider that spam, I don't think humour or even just chatting is spam that implies it's worthless. I don't think it is.

I get the feeling this thread will be closed or deleted because you have directed it at Ming there is an issue to discuss here I think though.

[Provost Harrison]

More than likely but the point still stands. No dissent will be tolerated. I resent this attitude I have directed towards me.

Snapcase. I have not done anything which is against the spirit of the rules, which seem to be so much at the whim of the powers-that-be here.

My objection is, why has Ming always taken this crappy attitude against me?

[Alexander's Horse]

Hi Mum


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Chaos, panic and disorder - My work here is done.

[MikeH]

So what you are saying is Resistance is futile?

Probably true. I guess you are torn because you like a lot of people here but are getting fed up with the restrictions placed on what you can say. Moving forums won't work unless you take all the people you want to talk to with you and that won't ever happen so you have to either put up with it or try and do something to change it. You've been putting up with it but it's got a bit much and you don't feel anything you say or do will make a difference to change it.

Good summary of the situation?

[Provost Harrison]

Spot on Mike! I couldn't have put it better myself...

[Ted]

Maybe he’s just jealous of your high post count, whirlwind typing skills, and quick-witted repartee.

[Provost Harrison]

Heh.

But another point is though, I like Matt, he seems to be a decent fella and we have no problem with one another at all. I just wish Ming would give me a chance, he will probably find I am not a malignant tumour deep within the flesh of Apolyton after all...

[MikeH]

So some debate on this issue would be healthy then? Certainly looks that way to me, from what I've read you aren't the only one with these concerns. The people who do have concerns like this seem to be written off a little bit as unimportant. Possibly because they aren't serious enough.

This place would be really depressing without the humour, sometimes a serious issue needs to be defused slightly before people get carried away with taking themselves too seriously.

[Yog-Sothoth]

I am probably among the unimportant posters , but I would like to say that the "mood" on apolyton has become rather depressing lately. And it's disturbing to see that it's more or less not allowed to criticize the decision's of the mods, like when MarkG bit of Imran when he voice his opinion of being threated unfairly. That's at least how it seemed to me.

[Urban Ranger]

I don't think he is against spamming, he is against breaking the rules. That's his job here as a moderator.

Is this hypocritical? If Ming critises your spamming, it is. If, however, he critises your spamming because you are breaking the rules, it is not.

It's like driving at a certain speed. Can you drive 80 km/h inside a city? But you can on a highway. Is the traffic policeman who catches you speeding inside a city drives at 80km/h on a highway a hypocrite?

[MikeH]

I think PH's problem is not with Ming enforcing the rules but that he doesn't seem (at the moment) to be allowing any discussion about the rules or decisions.

[Urban Ranger]

Mike,

That's not what I read. Provost wrote:

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Well after what I can only describe as an unfruitful discussion with Ming on ICQ last night after he decided to close my thread quite in a quite unjustified manner, I would like to know why he has such a problem with me, when I do exactly as he does, all I get is abuse that I am just a spammer and never contribute anything good to the OT. He goes to ACOL and spams, he goes to CGN and spams, yet anyone who does the same here is squished.
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It seems to me that he's pissed off because he can't spam, not because lack of discussions.

I have no idea <em>how</em> Rich discussed the issue with Ming. Maybe he wasn't in a good mood, and neither was Ming. Sparks flied. *shrug*

[Provost Harrison]

One of my issues is how I am regarded by Ming here. Now as the moderator, he can make my life harder. Now he chastises me about how I am a spammer and then does what I do on other forums. But I also take part in debates and the like as well as have fun in the not so serious threads. I raised this issue, and he locks it because 'what he does isn't against the rules' at other sites. Surely this is hypocritical, surely he should practice what he preaches, rather than demonise me for something he himself is guilty of. UR, I recommend you check out the previous thread which was locked, and check out some of his threads at CGN.