Creation of new threads restricted to 1/person/day in OT

[Narck]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 06-14-2000 10:17 AM</font>
(this goes to everyone)I would be interested to hear How Many Threads You Create In One Day In The OT in average...
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>On average 1 thread a week in the OT

[SnowFire]

I disagree with this as well. I don't think I've ever posted more than a thread a day (and on average post about a thread every two weeks), but I might want to post 2 threads one day in the future, perhaps.

I can't see why you should restrict everybody because some people fill up the OT with pointless topics.

I agree with Saras. Maybe make it two threads a day?

[Ming]

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!

I agree with most of the posters and think that this is really too much.
In addition, I think this will only make matters worse, because people will create double log ons to get around this rule!
Most people are really good about the number of threads they start. And those that go overboard get warned, then restricted.

MarkG, please rethink this position. If you are going to put a limit on it, at least make it 3 or 4. I don't think that is too unreasonable. As stated, many people show up, creat 3 to 5 threads, and then come back later to check responses. Yes, sometimes we do have a problem, but MLeonard and I usually solve it

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[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Murgatroyd on 06-14-2000 10:14 AM</font>
Some posters have legitimate questions they want answered, that would not go well together in a single thread.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>we are talking about the OT only. there is no restriction on the on-topic forums(where there are no problems of spam)


<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited June 14, 2000).]</font>

[Huey]

If I say I started 20 threads since I registered in May last year I would be exaggerating. But there were days that I started more than 1. And I sure would like it to stay that way.
Markos, pls listen to Ming and go back on this decision.

[DarthVeda]

This is rediculous. What is the reasoning for this? None, in my view.

Mark, have you gone off the deep end? Mass posting was never a problem and the people that did spam meaningless threads had them locked and they got a vacation.

This is an absurdity!

[Ari Rahikkala]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 06-14-2000 10:39 AM</font>
we are talking about the OT only. there is no restriction on the on-topic forums(where there are no problems of spam)
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*Clears throat* KRHM! MarkG, did you know that OT is not only SPAM, SPAM and SPAM?

[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Ming on 06-14-2000 10:31 AM</font>
If you are going to put a limit on it, at least make it 3 or 4. I don't think that is too unreasonable. As stated, many people show up, creat 3 to 5 threads, and then come back later to check responses.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>unfortunately, the limit can only be on a time basis(e.g. "1 thread/X numbers of days(or hours)" and not "X number of threads/day")
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</font>Yes, sometimes we do have a problem, but MLeonard and I usually solve it
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>the cool thing would be not to have to solve it

[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by LightEning on 06-14-2000 10:47 AM</font>
*Clears throat* KRHM! MarkG, did you know that OT is not only SPAM, SPAM and SPAM?
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>of course it's not spam! that's why I'm interested to see how many people and how many times this will actually affect

[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by DarthVeda on 06-14-2000 10:47 AM</font>
the people that did spam meaningless threads had them locked and they got a vacation.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>explain me why we must have two people on a 24-hour basis worrying about spam in order to have a decent forum

[Ming]

OK... I see what you are saying.
But even one thread an hour would be a problem because of peoples posting patterns.

Can you cut it down to one thread every 10 minutes? That way, it will stop the real spam artists, and still let people post more than one thread.

Again, the majority of people are not the problem. And why should they be penalized because of the acts of one or two people?


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[Hugo Rune]

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</font>explain me why we must have two people on a 24-hour basis worrying about spam in order to have a decent forum
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Circular Effect Relationship. If you have a lot of people who worry about Spam and what it does to the community, you do not get spam, and spammers are frozen out. If you impose a dictatorial rule on the posters, Spam becoes a way to express yourself, and Spammers are celebrated as heroes. Result- Unmoderated forum, as much spam as the community wants, with that level being quite low for this forum as it was for .owo., Moderated forum, lots of spam that just bothers the moderators.

Anyway, what you really want to prevent is bored people creating a string of threads in a short period. Set the rule to one every hour, and I guarantee that the effect will be similar without the enormous loss of creativity one thread a day will accomplish.

Essentially, it will be like this- Poster A makes a thread, and needs to make another. So, he messages Poster B by ICQ, who makes the thread for him. Inconvenient and rather stupid.

[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Ming on 06-14-2000 11:12 AM</font>
But even one thread an hour would be a problem because of peoples posting patterns.

Can you cut it down to one thread every 10 minutes? That way, it will stop the real spam artists, and still let people post more than one thread.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>it would? I think even 12 hours would be a short time, and I'm not talking just about simple spam, but also about organized attacks(and we had similar events recently)
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</font>Again, the majority of people are not the problem. And why should they be penalized because of the acts of one or two people?
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>all the people are already penalized for the acts of the few. everyone is not allowed to post images in the OT. everyone is not allowed to use some html codes in posts and no html at all in signatures. everyone is not allowed to make a login with a free e-mail address....

I would like to see in the next couple of days how many people actually have a problem, and not just a theoretical disagreement, before making any changes.

[Ming]

OK... if you are going to experiment, How about making it one thread per hour. That will still limit any organized attacks. They would have to have a lot of people on board for it to be effective, and if that was the case, no limit would really stop them.

Please consider one thread an hour for your experiment... please... please... please...

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[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Hugo Rune on 06-14-2000 11:14 AM</font>
Anyway, what you really want to prevent is bored people creating a string of threads in a short period. Set the rule to one every hour, and I guarantee that the effect will be similar without the enormous loss of creativity one thread a day will accomplish.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>on the other hand, such a limit could drive people to think before they create a thread, and thus create a more interesting thread(instead of 3-4 stupid ones that will be on page 2 in 4 hours). eventually, we could have a better forum