New feature: Replies number linked to last post

[MarkG]

in the thread summary page(e.g. the page where you can see all the current threads of a forum), the number of replies of a thread is now link to the last post of the thread

this allows two things:

1) you can go directly to the bottom of a thread to check the latest replies, instead of geting to the top(as you would from the normal link)

2) if the link has a visited color it means that noone posted after you(you have visited the page at the last post when you replied)


<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited April 23, 2000).]</font>

[Hugo Rune]

Though not quite as nauseating as the new title bar, it's still pretty mug-ugly. Blah!

[Hugo Rune]

Oh, and #2 doesn't seem to work. I've seen dark-blued threads that have had posts in them since I posted.

[MarkG]

*scratching his head*
a different color in the content of one of the columns made the whole page ugly?!?

on 2: an example?

[Paul]

When checking if an url has been visited the part starting with # is ignored (at least in IE5 which is what I use).

[MarkG]

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Paul on 04-23-2000 11:33 AM</font>
When checking if an url has been visited the part starting with # is ignored (at least in IE5 which is what I use).
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>can you explain that a bit more?


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[MarkG]

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Locutus on 04-23-2000 12:19 PM</font>
Let me guess, it's spring break in Greece?
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>actually, the term used here is Easter Vacation, but it's unrelated to today's changes...

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[adaMada]

I like it. It does change the general look of the forums, but I think we'll get used to it, considering the numerous benifits.



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[Paul]

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>can you explain that a bit more?
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

When you visit the url http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/000658.html#8 a browser (or at least IE5, I don't know about Netscape) will apparently put that in the visted urls history as http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/000658.html and also consider it visted when it changes to http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/000658.html#9 (or 10, 11 and so on).

[Hugo Rune]

Let me try to explain what we mean. Threads are displayed in two ways on apolyton at the moment: as the URL of the thread with a bookmark attached to it (#42 for example) which will take you to the last post in the thread (when you click the number). Now, this bit is essentially ignored by the browser, so if you've seen a thread once, this link irrespective of the number of the bookmark will stay in "visited" mode ie. be dark blue.

The other way threads are displayed is with the "?date=##:##" thing tagged onto the end of the URL. This really has no effect on what page the URL points to, but it makes your browser think that the URL points to a different thread each time that field has changed (which it does when a reply is made). What this means in practice is that (a) The real links on the front page show whether any relies have been made since you last saw the page (in which case they are light blue), and more importantly (b) Users behind firewalls can use UBB properly. (I cannot use ACOL well at school, for example, because it does not have this feature.)

Now, one problem with this is that when you make a reply to a thread it goes to a bookmark number (as done through the first method). If you then leave the thread, it is marked as unread (hey, that rhymes!), because the URL on the forum page will be pointing to the url with the new "?date=##:##" bit tacked on. Geddit?

[Hugo Rune]

Wait, I was mistaken! the post count link does not show threads you've seen, it shows thread you've replied to. The reason for this is that you always see threads through the second (date) format, which the Browser thins is a different URL. When you make a reply, however, you reach the "core URL" as explained above.

edit: One more thing: When there is a page break, the URL changes completely rendering the whole system useless after fifty posts.
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[MarkG]

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<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Paul on 04-23-2000 02:04 PM</font>
When you visit the url http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/000658.html#8 a browser (or at least IE5, I don't know about Netscape) will apparently put that in the visted urls history as http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/000658.html and also consider it visted when it changes to http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/HTML/000658.html#9 (or 10, 11 and so on).
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>I see what you mean. unfortunately that's how IE works


Hugo, I get it now. The answer is the same with the one I gave to Paul. IE will characterize as visited a blah.html#12 if you have visited blah.html or blah.html#11

Bottom Line: IE sucks and thus #2 in my first post does not work on it... furthermore, I dont think there is something that can be done about it
except to use netscape that is

[Paul]

Well, Netscape sucks, so that's not an option.

Anyway, would it not be possible to add the ?date part to the url where you are directed after you post? If that would be possible it would show as read in the topics list and there would be no IE problems.

[MarkG]

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Paul on 04-23-2000 04:23 PM</font>
Anyway, would it not be possible to add the ?date part to the url where you are directed after you post? If that would be possible it would show as read in the topics list and there would be no IE problems.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>you wouldn't be sent to the right post that way...

[Paul]

it would if you added the post number after the date number. So it would look like http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum20/H...?date=17:18#14