Swearing (Moderation Discussion)

[Iain Lindley]

Regarding the Off-Topic forum:

About a week ago I started a thread whose title included the word 'hell'. This is NOT a swear word. The word was edited out of my title; this removed from the value of the thread.

Later in the week, threads were started with the words 'wanker' and 'dickhead' in the titles. These are much stronger words in anyone's language.

I'm not bothered that these latter words were not moderated. What bothers me is that an innocent, inoffensive word for the vast majority is edited out. I simply do not see the reason for it.

The word 'hell' should not be removed due to pandering to the intolerant American 'God Squad' religious right, who constitute a tiny minority of Apolyton visitors.

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Iain

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[DanQ]

If you were in that "tiny minority", as you put it Iain, you would be annoyed if we did not edit out that word and even more annoyed if we reversed our decision on the practice.

The word 'hell' will continue to be edited out for those who find the word offensive.

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Dan; Apolyton CS

[Iain Lindley]

Surely the majority, who do not find this word in the slightest offensive, should take priority over the 'tiny minority'?

Anyway, thanks for clarification that the tiny Religious Wrong still hold sway over the rest of us.

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Iain

Line dancing was invented by people who can't dance but want to. They think if everyone does the same thing they won't look stupid. - datri

[Saint Marcus]

Must be a bunch of crazy, American, over the edge, religious fanatics lobbying for these idiotic forms of sensorship.

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- Daniël Melters, one of my friends and a source

[DanQ]

"Anyway, thanks for clarification that the tiny Religious Wrong still hold sway over the rest of us."

You are making a moutain out of a mohill.

I did not say that they were taking priority/have sway over "the rest of" you. By your saying "Religious Wrong", that is YOUR opinion -- it is also the opinion of this group that the word "hell" is offensive. We cannot cater to everyone's likes/dislikes, but we try.

Besides, you could type "he11" (two lower-case L's) instead, and still get your point across, but please do not go overboard in its use. Most of the time you can easily substitute in another word.

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Dan; Apolyton CS

[Gibster]

Well, if anyone really has to swear, then there are ways around it. If you can be bothered going to the trouble of doing something like edit me then the swearing you use is shown. And it stops people from using it inappropriately.

[Narck]

If you guys wish to have the word hell edited out every time it appears, you can just as well add it to the list of censored words... Then the discussion on the subject is also instantly over.

[Rasputin00]

I still cant understand as Iain asked why certain words referring to mastrubation are seemingly ok but a word out of the bible isnt, are yuou going to start removing other biblical words like Jesus , God, Heaven ??? I beleive you should stick to deleting and/or censoring the real swear words not words such as Hell !!! IMHO

[Iain Lindley]

I'm perfectly aware that you can't please all of the people all of the time, but surely in an issue like this it is better to please the majority? May I also say that I agree completely with Rasputin's point.

[Monk]

If you won't mind a bit criticism Dan, I think you're -slightly- twisting some proportions here. On the Off-Topic you have allowed three thousand posts by a person calling himself "Albert Speer", and we've seen another poster blaming the "******s" for the world's problems on more than one occasion. If you really want to keep offensive things of the board, you ought to look at those instead

<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Monk (edited March 20, 2000).]</font>

[MarkG]

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Monk on 03-20-2000 04:41 PM</font>
If you won't mind a bit criticism Dan, I think you're -slightly- twisting some proportions here. On the Off-Topic you have allowed three thousand posts by a person calling himself "Albert Speer", and we've seen another poster blaming the "******s" for the world's problems on more than one occasion. If you really want to keep offensive things of the board, you ought to look at those instead
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>on the case of Speer, I dont recall the last time I got a mail from someone complaining about it. I also dont recall reading someone post on the forums complaining that we let Speer post...

Also, please be more precise on the other case you mention

[Rasputin00]

Marko / Danno

Are Biblical words swear words or not, surely you must answer no!!!

I for one dont get offended at anyones use of language around me, but I realise this is your site, so their is no such thing as free speech, but surely in the interests of reality , you should stick to censoring offensive words not Biblical words....

[Iain Lindley]

I don't recall anyone complaining about the word 'hell' either... although I can't claim to see the mail of the administrators , but no-one has ever complained on the forum.

[Gary]

I am in a tiny minority of one, and I have to protest at the gratuitous use of the offensive word "Lindley". From here on in, please delete it from all posts, and send everyone who uses it on a 12 month vacation. Clearly I should not have to put up with being so offended every time I visit, what is supposed to be, a good clean family site !

Now let's have no more bitching about this !

<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Gary (edited March 21, 2000).]</font>

[Iain Lindley]

LOL Gary!