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**Panag** · July 26, 2003, 22:54

hi ,

who-aah

thanks Dan

good story also :supercool: > smilie has yet to be invented

have a nice day

**mrmitchell** · July 26, 2003, 23:13

Good golly, Miss Molly.

dork

I can assure you that through advertising and affiliation revenues, the operating expenses for Apolyton are more than being covered at this point on an ongoing basis.

I fart in the naysayers general direction

A subscription service of a different sort has been discussed in the past and may indeed come to fruition sometime in the next twelve months, or not. We are not ready to state either way at this point.

Earlier in the article you say you aren't, now you say you don't know? Are you that indesicive?

Say it ain't so, Dan! Keep Apolyton free...it's not like you need the money or anything, if the rest of the article can be taken to be 100% true as well. (That '99% uptime' comment is a bit dubious

)

we're not going anywhere. Keep On Civin'!

**Frozzy** · July 27, 2003, 00:27

Dan: As hard as it is to put a site like Apolyton in a nutshell for 12 months, you've done pretty bloody well

**DrSpike** · July 27, 2003, 06:17

Nice column Dan.

**DrSpike** · July 27, 2003, 06:20

Originally posted by mrmitchell

Earlier in the article you say you aren't, now you say you don't know? Are you that indesicive?

Say it ain't so, Dan! Keep Apolyton free...it's not like you need the money or anything, if the rest of the article can be taken to be 100% true as well

It's quite clear what was said, and there was no contradiction.

Originally posted in Dan's column

While not fan sites necessarily, other websites -- in the gaming industry and otherwise -- have begun and/or continue, as the case may be, to charge their visitor base for partial or in some cases full access to their content. This is even where the basis of the site is non-for-profit. On behalf of the Apolyton administration, we are reaffirming our commitment that we will not follow this example. We need not to and, more importantly, we choose not to. A subscription service of a different sort has been discussed in the past and may indeed come to fruition sometime in the next twelve months, or not. We are not ready to state either way at this point. However, as previously stated this service would entitle subscribers to additional benefits that while convenient would not result in non-subscribers losing access to site content.

If things do change, access to content for non-subscribers is still guaranteed.

**Rasbelin** · July 27, 2003, 07:22

Originally posted by mrmitchell

Keep Apolyton free...it's not like you need the money or anything, if the rest of the article can be taken to be 100% true as well.

They do need the cash if they want to expand, which they quite clearly have to with all the downtime and slow page loading times.

**Skanky Burns** · July 27, 2003, 07:54

but I am boasted by several positive points.

From the context, that word should probably be "boosted". Minor point though.

In the browser wars, Internet Explorer soundly crushed the competition with an 86.1% penetration rate.

Just remember, Opera identifies itself as IE by default. My Opera browser is doing this as we speak.

While not fan sites necessarily, other websites -- in the gaming industry and otherwise -- have begun and/or continue, as the case may be, to charge their visitor base for partial or in some cases full access to their content. This is even where the basis of the site is non-for-profit. On behalf of the Apolyton administration, we are reaffirming our commitment that we will not follow this example. We need not to and, more importantly, we choose not to. A subscription service of a different sort has been discussed in the past and may indeed come to fruition sometime in the next twelve months, or not.

, either way.

I am glad to hear that Apolyton is in the green financially though.

**Unspeakable Horror** · July 27, 2003, 11:06

On the http://apolyton.net/misc/ the link to this thead is broken

"Comments on this piece are welcome in this forum thread = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=#?"

Nice Column

**DanQ** · July 27, 2003, 12:00

Originally posted by Carlos113
On the http://apolyton.net/misc/ the link to this thead is broken

"Comments on this piece are welcome in this forum thread = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=#?"

Opps -- appreciate the heads-up. I've corrected this.

---------
Dan; Apolyton CS

P.S. Thank you to everyone for the kind comments on the piece to date.

**mrmitchell** · July 27, 2003, 12:20

If things do change, access to content for non-subscribers is still guaranteed.

But what is content? Is it forums? Is it news and downloads? I'm sure Dan and Markos wouldn't be cruel enough to make the forums subscribe-content, considering a lot of the posters are broke college kids...well, the whole idea just seems icky. :vomit:

EDIT: Oh, and I think I might've forgotten to say it (maybe all the dancing in the first post did it), but a great column by a great guy.

**DarkCloud** · July 27, 2003, 13:33

good writing

---
Mr Mitchell- what he meant was that (at least I think) was that

subscribers
a: get a larger PM storage limit (they can store 300 while nonsubscribers can store 100)
b: They can upload more files (subscribers can load 10 MB, non can only load 1 MB)
c: They get 'glowing' usernames

and/or perhaps custom titles (although c is sort of a guess, he did mention username things)

as far as I can tell-
1- avatars won't be subscription
2- flags won't be subscription

but that's just what I get from it.
--
Good article dan

I really liked the statistics

**Panag** · July 27, 2003, 14:01

Originally posted by DarkCloud
good writing

---
Mr Mitchell- what he meant was that (at least I think) was that

subscribers
a: get a larger PM storage limit (they can store 300 while nonsubscribers can store 100)
b: They can upload more files (subscribers can load 10 MB, non can only load 1 MB)
c: They get 'glowing' usernames

and/or perhaps custom titles (although c is sort of a guess, he did mention username things)

as far as I can tell-
1- avatars won't be subscription
2- flags won't be subscription

but that's just what I get from it.
--
Good article dan

I really liked the statistics

hi ,

150 pm's is more then what one needs , .......

we dont need all that extra space , ....

have a nice day

**Gatekeeper** · July 27, 2003, 14:05

Originally posted by Asuka
They do need the cash if they want to expand, which they quite clearly have to with all the downtime and slow page loading times.

Hmm. Dan's article stated that, financially, 'Poly was doing better now than it was a year ago, and that the net income, as it were, was being stashed away in a rainy day fund. Whether it's enough to fund an expansion is an open question, but the fact remains that 'Poly is apparently doing OK financially as a free site.

Gatekeeper

**mrmitchell** · July 27, 2003, 14:32

a: get a larger PM storage limit (they can store 300 while nonsubscribers can store 100)
b: They can upload more files (subscribers can load 10 MB, non can only load 1 MB)
c: They get 'glowing' usernames and/or perhaps custom titles (although c is sort of a guess, he did mention username things)

PMs and Uploads are understandable. The whole idea still seems icky though. It's a bunch of unknowns and slippery slopes...however, I'm sure Dan and Markos will do the right thing.

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