Constitutional proposal

[Drogue]

I would mind. Parties make the game fun, and to call them anything else is confusing IMHO. Moreover, who said the Hive is given as being Communist. That is a point for discussion, not a given, like the Police State.

[Maniac]

Moreover, who said the Hive is given as being Communist.

The word "communist" doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere in the official game info, but "collectivist" is as Hercules pointed out. Though indeed, let's to increase the roleplay possibilities assume the Hive doesn't have to be communist. How should I call the Party then though? And what should I write in the preamble?

You say yourself the Hive is a police state. Wouldn't it be a bit silly to have a multiparty system under a police state? IMHO any self-respecting police state should have only one party. There are plenty of alternatives to the "party" name: faction, commission, guild, movement, society...

[Drogue]

But the difference is only in name, and so there is the same problem that there should only be one of them. What does it matter if it is called a party or a faction, commission, guild, movement, society etc? Indeed, there is only one faction, the Hive, so having multiple's of those doesn't seem to work.

You can have parties under a Police State, just as you can under a Monarchy. We justify it like we justify the elections: These are elections to make the common man think that he has power, there to deceive. These elections are for candidates with no real power, as the real power lies in the hands of those behind the thrown. That is the RP IIRC. It is just in RL those elected are also the power behind the thrown.

Look at many Monarchies throughout history. The King has the power, but there are elections to positions of no real power. There are also parties set up to debate. The parties put forward candidates too.

We need parties in this game to make it interesting, as people have said before. Calling them anything else just confuses things. It is just the name. I would simply say there is one Hive, but many parties. We can have parties in a Police State, it's just that they have no power, that is all the power behind the thrown. We have modelled that into elections for the ease of playing the game. A Police State would be having the General Secretary having all the power. We have simply changed it the other way round for ease of use, with those elected having the power.

[Voltaire]

In light of the recent increase in political factionalism within our great state, I would like the Constitutional Committee to place a clause in the constitution reiterating the principle that the Communist Party is and always will the one and only Party of the Human Hive.

Comrade Voltaire
Letter to the Constitutional Committee, Datalinks

[Voltaire]

You may also take to take inspiration from the glorious constitution of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic, now for the first time made public.

[Method]

Originally posted by Maniac
Comments, suggestions, critiques?

still using polls to make decisions? That's not very Police State of you, now is it

[Drogue]

Polls of the governorship yes. We are all members of the governing Party, and we make decisions collectively. We are not elected, and we make the decisions. The General Secretary cannot do it all on his own, since that would mean having a large GS turnover due to violent depositions unpopular decisions

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Drogue
Polls of the governorship yes. We are all members of the governing Party, and we make decisions collectively. We are not elected, and we make the decisions. The General Secretary cannot do it all on his own, since that would mean having a large GS turnover due to violent depositions unpopular decisions

I agree, the General Secretary cannot have absolute power, I mean even Khrushchev was ousted when he lost support of the Party.

[Corellion]

The beginning of the decline. Breznev was not sufficiently enlightened to realise the true path to take. We shall not repeat the mistakes of Earth.

[Snowflake]

Talking about names, I think "The People's Republic of Human Hives" sounds good too.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by HongHu
Talking about names, I think "The People's Republic of Human Hives" sounds good too.

Indeed. We could use both names depending on how we feel.

Anyway, I updated the constitutional proposal with the most recent developments. I changed references to the "Communist Party" to "The Party". I won't change the preamble though unless someone wants to find or write one him/herself. I also removed the part about impeachments and added the results of the coup poll instead.

If there are no further comments, I'll present the full constitution to the entire Supreme Soviet for official ratification.