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[Mart]

Hi, I'm looking for players for pbem games, SMAC and/or SMAX. If interested, please reply. Settings to be decided, (I prefer original 7 factions in both SMAC and SMAX, and wish to play Peacekeepers)

[t_ras]

if your using original factions no need for smacx.
it is slightly different only.

any way, i'll take the hive.

[binTravkin]

Hi

Id like to join u 2,but not knowin the rules
(especially - victory conditions)
dont know what to take

mmm..lets take an universal one -> I'll be deirdre!

But better get those conditions brained out soon,so i can switch fac if any 1 is loving Deirdre very much..

..shes quite pretty!
..but i prefer Santiago - athletic women r better in sex!

[Mart]

Yes, but there are those "small" additions like UNS Unity wreackage and a bit different aliens - fungal towers. I play SMAX mainly for the Unity wreackage, i like the additional graphics and its options
We could start two games or one and decide about which one to play and what settings will be used.

[binTravkin]

Well,if u still choose to play SMAC,my comm freq will be wide open!

I have no SMAX & dont want 1 - I dont like it
But the wreckage is quite nice!

[Themonger]

Hello everyone,

I'd be up for a game of either (although I prefer classic SMAC)

My faction of choice: UoP

Looking forward to a good game already

-Themonger

[t_ras]

mat started thread, he will decide, ill stay any way....
and since you all seem to be setlers you can choose any level (i susualy play tracend).

[Themonger]

Originally posted by t_ras
mat started thread, he will decide, ill stay any way....
and since you all seem to be setlers you can choose any level (i susualy play tracend).

OK, I suppose I'll just go ahead and vote for map conditions right now and get it out of the way.

All victory Conditions
Directed Research
Transcendant difficulty
no spoils of war
no random events
flexible starting positions
yes to CMN

medium everything for map conditions

I also don't prefer any type of fast start (the built in one, or of the campaign made variety)


Thats what I prefer (I'm up for new things as well, if thats what the group wants to do)

[Mr. Harley]

I'll take Morgan, unless the map is too small - then I'll take Santiago. Let's let Mart7x5 decide, since he started the thread. I go with t_ras, I'll support anything Mart7x5 goes with, and I think Thermonger has a good basis to start from - I'd prefer a map that is no smaller than large.

edited to clarify

[binTravkin]

Waitin 4 you to decide whether to take SMAC or SMAX

If it is SMAC count me in as Deirdre & add my vote for all posted by themonger,except for cloud cover -> let it be "dense"

I like rain!

[Mr. Harley]

Mart, since you've started the thread and have my and t_ras votes, how do you want it. You post and I'll try to find a CNN to set it up.

[Mart]

Thank you for joining! Presently we have the following factions:

Gaia's Stepdaughters...................BinTravkin
Human Hive...............................T_ras
University of Planet.....................Themonger
Morgan Industries.......................Shawnmmcc
Spartan Federation.....................(vacant)
The Lord's Believers....................(vacant)
Peacekeeping Forces...................Mart7x5

If someone wants to change faction, write when there is still time. We play SMAC - original release, as already two persons prefere it. Updated to version 4.0, i think you could have this update (thus having Manifold Nexus and Borehole Cluster), check if this is ok with you.

Map considerations
Please write what you think about playing on some known map, made by someone, and actually known to all players. the advantage is that the map generator mostly creates awful maps, and seems never to be able to put Freshwater Sea the proper way. Polar regions are also not the best. Though when map is created with ocean and erosive forces at average settings, maps are quite good as for land shapes.
Size - maybe Large or Huge, but i would not go for larger map than 64x128, as they recommend in the editor.

Players Preferences
Please write your preferences the way you would play the game, we can just take majority approach. What CMN stands for? I do not know where to put this preference... Please review your votes in the table below, this is what i understood from your posts, but i may be wrong

Preference.BinTravkin.T_ras..Themonger.Shawnmmcc.(-)....(-)....Mart

Map size	?	?	?	L-H	-	-	L-H	
Ocean		50-70	?	50-70	50-70	-	-	50-70
Erosion		Aver	?	Aver	Aver	-	-	Weak
Life		Aver	?	Aver	Aver	-	-	Aver	
Clouds		Dense	?	Aver	Aver	-	-	Dense	
Difficulty	Transc.	Transc.	Transc.	Transc.	-	-	Transc.	

Transcend	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Conquest	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Diplomatic	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Economic	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Cooperative	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Do or Die	?	?	?	?	-	-	No
Flexible start	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Tech stag	?	?	?	?	-	-	No
Spoils of war	No	?	No	No	-	-	No
Blind research	No	?	No	No	-	-	No
Intense riv	?	?	?	?	-	-	No
No survey	?	?	?	?	-	-	Yes
No scatter	?	?	?	?	-	-	No
No rnd events	Yes	?	Yes	Yes	-	-	Yes
Time Warp	No	?	No	No	-	-	No
Iron man	?	?	?	?	-	-	will it change anything?
Rand person	?	?	?	?	-	-	No
Rand social	?	?	?	?	-	-	No

[t_ras]

spoils of war yes!!!!
huge map.
no accelarated start
all other i dont care....

CMN is coordinator,moderator,narrator.

inmost of the games (not allways) it is used that he creates the map, moderates the thread and take arbiral desitions if needed.
i might be able to find one if you want.
also i think it would be better to leabe the vacant places for AI's this time.

[binTravkin]

These are my votes:


Preference.BinTravkin.MyNewVotes

Map size ? huge
Ocean 50-70 30-50 (the ocean will rise!)
Erosion Aver weak (more minerals)
Life Aver abundant
Clouds Dense
Difficulty Transc.

Transcend Yes
Conquest Yes
Diplomatic Yes
Economic Yes
Cooperative Yes
Do or Die ? no (more interesting)
Flexible start Yes
Tech stag ? yes (or Zakharov,Morgan&Lal will hit the skies)
Spoils of war No yes
Blind research No no
Intense riv ? no
No survey ? no
No scatter ? no
No rnd events Yes no
Time Warp No no
Iron man ? no
Rand person ? yes (for more fun with AI)
Rand social ? yes (for more fun with AI)

Additional:
Gametype = SMAC

Comments:
I strongly suggest others to think twice before settin OCEAN to more than 30-50,

because,when the sea will start risin,not much of land will stay!!
And terraform will then be wery slow:
Raise land: 12 turns
Thermal Borehole: 24 turns
Road: 1 turn
Magtube (optional):3 turns
----
40 turns for 1 former

I expect to have not more than 4 formers for base
It will take them 10(5 with superformer) turns to work on 1 square!
What about 20 squares?

Also EROSION should be WEAK to have more minerals & CLOUDS - DENSE to have more nutrients!
It will fasten the buildup & more time will be left for war!

NATIVE LIFE is essential for Gaians so I wote highest

DO OR DIE on NO because I for myself will be very interested in losing and then startin in small island & Im goin to lose,cause you guys seem to be more professional yhan I.
PLEASE SET IT FOR ME, I promise it will be very fun seein binTravkin crossing the skies with escape pod like binLadens boys in their plane headin for 2 towers (not the ones from Lord of The Rings)!

TECH STAGNATION is very important,because Zakharov will have to build only prototypes (so fast his tech will be advancing) while the others will be sittin on Impact weapons!
There is always chance for Facs like SPARTANS,BELIEVERS,HIVE,GAIANS to produce more explore units (SPARTANS: tech:Mobile, BELIEVERS: ++SUPPORT, HIVE: +INDUSTRY, GAIANS:

+PLANET-->mindworm capture) and collect artifacts for later use on NetNodes!!
Also probe teams will prove more useful on slower research - if research speed of univ is
<10 turns/tech + NetNode/Artifact U cant get from your base to their frequently enough to
steal at least much needed techs & if you try to direct your stealin the result may be lost
probe

SPOILS OF WAR -> For low tech factions (especially BELIEVERS & HIVE) its the best chance to
win a war!
I suggest that TECH STAGNATION go along with SPOILS OF WAR, because it will balance the
advance of science between economic/research facs and warriors (also for builders &
warmongers from human players)

RANDOM EVENTS render game more realistic & interestin, but its fine also without them

RANDOM PERSONALITY/SOCIAL AGENDA -> These randomisations often generates versatile AIs for
example: Exploring Yang, Economical Miriam(makes up for --RESEARCH)& so on..
Anyway, our free slots are SPARTANS & BELIEVERS:
every1 knows their agendas, agresiveness & so they become very predictable!
It does no good for interesting game..

Take in your consideration

binTravkin

[binTravkin]

Explanation:

Map size ? huge

means:
was "?"
i vote for "huge"

bin