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  • #16
    What MariOne said
    I will add this: Although SMAC may not be the cure to all the world's problems, it comes mighty damn close!
    I am on a mission to see how much coffee it takes to actually achieve time travel.

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    • #17
      Re: Re: Love CII/PtW--Want a new game--SMAC the answer?

      Originally posted by MariOne



      LOL, those two bits pretty much clash against each other, don't you think?
      Even to the most unprejudiced reader, *taken together* they have written PHONY all in between their lines
      Question was and is legit.

      I apologise to the Apolyton Community for a streak of nastiness last night I don't normally indulge in. I had other issues and realise now this is not the place to transfer my frustrations and take them out on people I don't even know. My apologies again--I am sincere.

      Thank you for your comments on SMAC. One question I sorta see answers to (but still not sure about)--is there an XP recommended a la Civ's PtW?
      "We may be in a hallucination here, but that's no excuse for being delusional!." K.S. Robinson, 'The Years Of Rice And Salt.'

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      • #18
        Rob_S,

        Sorry if I'm late in responding. But I'm pretty shocked at how some of the other Apolytoner's remarks. Anyway, I think SMAC is a much more involving game despite it's dated graphics. The Diplomacy in the game is the best I have ever seen and the AI isn't all that dumb. You'll be surprised when you declare war against another faction, have one of your allies also declare war,then both of you coordinate invasion plans.

        Going off the topic a bit....what other people said about the AC-Forum is kinda right. We're more laid back than those who usually participate in Civ and Off-Topic so don't worry if no one replies to you in a prompt manner. I've done some lurking in the Civ forums and it's pretty intense.

        Back on topic...Sorry but I can't answer your question for PtW. People here have not recommended CivIII so I haven't bought it. But I've been playing SMAC again recently.

        (Btw,the best faction in SMAC is the Human Hive)
        Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
        Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
        *****Citizen of the Hive****
        "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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        • #19
          thanks to MariOne for compiling the votes.
          Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
          Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
          *****Citizen of the Hive****
          "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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          • #20
            SMAC is the best, get SMAX if you can as its even better!SMAX is the expansion and it adds a lot more than it first appears to. BTW, factions other then the Hive, can be more fun to play depending on your style of play. Also there are customized factions that can be DL and can be a lot of fun and really change the game

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            • #21
              It's called SMAC for a reason. Far, far, far, FAR more addictive than Civ3, or Civ2, or the abyssmal CTP games. Without a shadow of a doubt, the pinnacle of TBS.
              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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              • #22
                I haven't found the depth and replayability of SMAC in any other TBS, RTS, RPG, FPS or any other type of game I have played... I always come back for more SMAC!

                Addictive game incarnate.
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                • #23
                  frankychan we should have a 1v1 sometime since im a hardcore Hiver aswell will probably get skinned since i've only just started pbems and ip's but hey no harm in learning better ways to get the masses under tighter control
                  Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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                  • #24
                    Layeth the SMACeth down, eh?

                    I'd write more, but my arm has been penetrated by little plasma globe shards which make typing with my left hand difficult. [It happened yesterday, but the tendons don't heal too quick...]

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                    • #25
                      Hark! Do I hear a junta of HIVE supporters?
                      "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                      • #26
                        Re: Re: Re: Love CII/PtW--Want a new game--SMAC the answer?

                        Originally posted by Rob_S


                        Question was and is legit.

                        I apologise to the Apolyton Community for a streak of nastiness last night I don't normally indulge in. I had other issues and realise now this is not the place to transfer my frustrations and take them out on people I don't even know. My apologies again--I am sincere.

                        Thank you for your comments on SMAC. One question I sorta see answers to (but still not sure about)--is there an XP recommended a la Civ's PtW?
                        If you are still confused about the inferences, they are as follows:

                        the orginal game was released as Sid Meirer's Alpha Centauri - abbreviated to SMAC

                        the expansion game requiring the original was called Sid Meirer's Alien Crossfire - abbreviated to SMAX.

                        Interestingly although they both carry the Sid Meirer's name (done IMHO purely in order to lure consumers loyal to the CIV brand) most of the work/design fell to Brian Reynolds principal designer/maker of Civ2.

                        You'll likely find it very hard to get a copy of SMAX as the publisher Electonic Arts in what is widely regarded here as one of the more stupid moves decided to only run a limited production and no longer plans any more productions.

                        Best bets for aquiring expansion pack are via Ebay and/or downloading from legit sites like Underdogs.
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                        • #27
                          I wonder how popular a punter would be if they started making cracked copies of the SMAX CDROM and selling them online for shelf price while sending the proceeds to BHG.

                          Not that I'd even dream of doing this. Naturally.
                          "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
                            I wonder how popular a punter would be if they started making cracked copies of the SMAX CDROM and selling them online for shelf price while sending the proceeds to BHG.

                            Not that I'd even dream of doing this. Naturally.
                            Naturally.


                            Rob_s:

                            It's great, you'll love it.
                            "We are living in the future, I'll tell you how I know, I read it in the paper, Fifteen years ago" - John Prine

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                            • #29
                              Great game-- Smac/x is my favorite although I still play Civ2 from time to time

                              Civ3?? UGGHHH-- I did not enjoy it at all-- They seemed to dumb-down everything
                              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                              • #30
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