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**DarkCloud** · December 14, 2002, 17:42

Rules for voting

Everyone can vote for 3 posters

Registered In/Before 1999- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2000- 3 points per vote
Registered In 2001- 2 point per vote
Registered In 2002- 1 points per vote

You may not vote for yourself.
All ‘frivolous’ votes are thrown out.
You may only vote once in the hall of fame (for 3 people) IF you try to vote more than once ALL of your votes will be made void.

As per suggestion by MOBIUS, the last vote's are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Solver, all previous votes are carried onto the next votes.

FAQ:

“Trust me, an on-topicer will never win “

What about Xin Yu? What about Velociryx?
And remember, many of these ‘mostly-OT posters’ used to be huge on-topic posters back around 1998-99!

“Where is the Hall of Fame usually posted?”

From December 2000 to August 2002, the Hall of Fame had only been posted in the Off Topic forums; with occasional forays into the Apolyton/Community section. However, nowadays you can find the Apolyton Hall of Fame in the Civ III-General, CTP I-MP, CTP II-General, AC-General and one of the Alt.Civ sections (rotatable

) in addition to the Off Topic; with links INTO the voting realm in the Apolyton-Community and Civ II-General sections.

**DarkCloud** · December 14, 2002, 17:44

Current Standings (The Previous Votes’ add-ins are in brackets)
These are all the people who made the last List, but were not elected.

1 Slowwhand- ------------(37) 18----55
2 Frogger [Krazy Horse]- ------- (37) 17----54
3 Asher- ------(28) 22---50
4 Reismark- (23) 22---45

orange- (14) 29---44
DinoDoc- (29) 15-- 44

DanS- (20) 16----36

Locutus- (23) 12----35

Paul- (24) 10---34
DarkCloud- (18) 16----34

korn469- --------- (23) 10---- 33
Fez/Giancarlo- (26) 7---33

Sprayber - --------- (18) 12---30

MLeonard- -----(21) 8----29

Boris Godunov – (11) 17----28

Zykla- (12) 4---24

Scouse Gits- (15) 8----23
JohnT- -(15) 8---23

Eli- (15) 5----20

Urban Ranger- (19)
Solver- (15) 4---19

Sten Sture- (14) 4----18

fiera- (12) 4----16

ixnay- (4) 11---15

CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- (10) 4----14
n.c.- (14)

Shadowstrike (10) 3----13
Azazel- (9) 4----13
War4Ever- (6) 7---13

Tau Ceti- (5) 7--12
Ogie Oglethorpe- (3) 9---12
alexman (1) 11---12
Tiamat-( 9) 3----12

Sagacious Dolphin- (7) 4---11
Shi Huangdi- (3) 8----11
David Floyd- (11)
Catt- 11
Sikander- (4) 7----11
Theseus- (3) 8--11
Alinestera Covelia 11
Immortal Wombat- (9) 2----11

devilmunchkin- (10)
jon miller- (8) 2----10
Lincoln- (10)
werefox- (6) 4----10
Aeson- (6) 4---10
Arrian (3) 7--- 10

East Street Trader- (6) 3---9
Red_jon- (9)
Zeus_of_Olimpos- (5) 4----9
EyesOfNight- (2) 7----9
Caesar the Great-(6) 3----9

Marquis de Sodaq- (4) 4---8
Mr Fun- (8)
Natan- (8)
Porphyrogenitus- (8)
Albert Speer (8)
Empress- (5) 3----8

warpstorm- 7
boann- (5) 2----7
DeepO-(5) 2----7
Coracle- (5) 2----7
WesW- 7
Hexagonian- 7

notyoueither- 6
axi- (6)
Sergeant Sheets- (2) 4----6
Jack the Bodiless-(6)
Rand Al'Tor- (6)

Skanky Burns- (1) 4----5
BlackWidow24- (5)
Clear Skies- (5)
the capo- (5)
El Awrence- (5)
Sir Ralph- (3) 2----5
Trip- 5

Dominikos-4
GePap- 4
Dr Strangelove- (4)
Dale- 4
Kassiopeia- 4
Vondrack 4

MBloomIII- (3)
Six Thousand Year Old Man- (3)
BeBro- (3)
Waku- (3)
Belinda9- (3)
Harlan- 3
Dissident- (3)
Vi Vicdi- (3)
Monkspider- (3)
Gramphos- (3)
ColdWizard- (3)
Kaak- (3)
phoenixcager- (3)
FlamefFlash 3
dojoboy 3
Bradman 3

FemmeAdonis- (2)
Guynemer- (2)
markusf- (2)
UberKrux- 2
mindseye- (2)
DeathByTheSword 2
Blake- 2
Sir David- (2)
Frustrated Poet- 2
Gibsie- (2)
LordStone1- (2)
MOBIUS- (2)
Apocalypse- (2)
Rogan Josh- (2)
Giovanni Wine-(2)
faded glory- (2)
mindseye- (2)
Rasbelin- 2
Wigalf- (2)
Andreas- (2)
DarkStar- (2)

vulture- (1)
Seneca- (1)
connorkimbro- (1)
UltraSonix- (1)
The Brain- (1)
Jimmytrick- (1)
Master Marcus- (1)
DylanBaker- (1)
Hydey- (1)
Taurus- (1)
Ted Stryker [Derek, Provost D]- (1)
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I vote for korn469-3 Empress- 3 Shadowstrike-3

Who voted for Whom

Adam Smith voted for: Reismark (4), DanS (4), StenSture (4)
alva voted for: DeepO (2), Frustrated Poet (2), Notyoueither (2)
Apocalypse voted for: Asher (4), ixnay (4), Solver (4)
Asher voted for: KrazyHorse (4), DinoDoc (4), Zylka (4)
asleepatthewheel voted for: notyoueither (1), warpstorm (1), arrian (1)
Azazel voted for: Locutus (3), Eli (3), Frogger (3)
Bamspeedy voted for: Aeson (1), alexman (1), Warpstorm (1)
boann voted for: Slowwhand (3), eyes of night (3), orange (3)
Boris Godunov voted for: ixnay (2), Asher (2), orange (2)
Changmai Beagle voted for: Hexagonian (4), WesW (4), Dale (4)
Chris 62 voted for: slowwhand (2), Sprayber (2), boann (2)
ColdWizard voted for: orange (3), reismark (3), Slowwhand (3)
DarkCloud voted for: korn 469 (3), Empress (3), Shadowstrike (3)
David Floyd voted for: orange (4), Mleonard (4), Slowwhand (4)
De Gaulle voted for: Alexman (1), Theseus (1), Catt (1)
devilmunchkin voted for: Slowwhand (2), DarkCloud (2), sprayber (2)
Dominae voted for: alexman (1), Arrian (1), notyoueither (1)
Gatekeeper voted for: FlameFlash (3), dojoboy (3), Bradman (3)
GePap voted for: Sir Ralph (2), Trip (2), Fez(2)
GP voted for: Sergeant Sheets (4), Dominikos (4), Frogger (4)
Grumbold voted for: Hexagonigan (3), WesW (3), korn469 (3)
Guynemer voted for: KrazyHorse (4), DinoDoc (4), JohnT (4)
H Tower voted for: DinoDoc (2), Immortal Wombat (2), Asher (2)
Immortal Wombat voted for: Paul (3), Locutus (3), Harlan (3)
Imran Siddiqui voted for: DanS (4), Asher (4), Slowwhand (4)
ixnay voted for Asher (4), Zylka (4), Boris Godunov (4)
Jay Bee voted for: DarkCloud (4), Paul (4), Fiera (4)
jdd2007 voted for: Locutus (2), DarkCloud (2), ixnay (2)
JohnT voted for: DanS (4), DarkCloud (4), Orange (4)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei) (4), Zykla (4)
Kampus majore voted for: Theseus (1), notyoueither (!), Arrian (1)
Konquest02 voted for: Alexman (1), Theseus (1), Arrian (1)
Lazarus and the Gimp voted for: Alnistera Covelia (4), Eyes of Night (4), Sagacious Dolphin (4)
Mad Bomber voted for: alexman (1), Aeson (1), Warpstorm (1)
MariOne voted for: Sikander (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Tau Ceti (4)
Ming voted for: werefox (4), Mleonard (4), Reismark (4)
monkspider voted for: Boris Godunov (2), Orange (2), Jon Miller (2)
Mr. President voted for: Kassiopea (2), DeathByTheSword (2), Alnistera Covelia (2)
Ned voted for: Shi Huangdi (4), GePap (4), Azazel (4)
notyoueither voted for: Frogger (2), korn469 (2), Aeson (2)
orange voted for Caesar the Great (3), Reismark (3), Tiamat (3)
panag voted for: Eli (2)
Paul voted for: Locutus (4), Scouse Gits (4), Tau Ceti (4)
Plan Austral voted for: Ixnay (2), Boris Godunov (2), Fez (2)
rah voted for: DarkCloud (4), Reismark (4), War4Ever (4)
redbull voted for: DinoDoc (1), Ixnay (1), Asher (1)
red_jon voted for: Boris Godunov (3), Fez (3), Orange (3)
Sagacious Dolphin voted for: orange (4), DanS (4), Skanky Burns (4)
Seneca voted for: Boris Godunov (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), East Street Trader (3)
Skanky Burns voted for: korn469 (2), Asher (2), ixnay (2)
Sir Ralph voted for: Theseus (2), arrian (2), alexman (@)
Slowwhand voted for: Sprayber (4), Orange (4), Reismark (4)
Stefu voted for: DinoDoc (4), JohnT (4), Sprayber (4)
Stuie voted for: Theseus (2), Catt (2), UberKrux (2)
Taz voted for: Sikander (3), Ogie Oglethorpe (3), Tau Ceti (3)
The Pioneer voted for: Vondrack (!), Trip (1), Catt (1)
Theseus voted for: Catt (1), Arrian (1), alexman (1)
Tiberius voted for: Alexman (3), Warpstorm (3), Vondrack (3)
TKG voted for: Blake (2), Ogie Oglethorpe (2), Alnisteria Covelia (2)
Trajanus voted for: Boris Godunov (3)
Tuomerehu voted for: Rasbelin (2), Kassiopeia (2), Trip (2)
WarpStorm voted for: notyoueither (2), Coracle (2), Catt (2)
wilbill voted for: warpstorm (1), theseus (1), Catt (1)
Vlad Antlerkov voted for: Black Dragon/Shi Huangdi (4), Scouse Gits (4), Marquis de Sodaq (4)
Zopperoni voted for: Paul (3), War4Ever (3), Asher (3)

**MariOne** · December 15, 2002, 05:46

HEY DC, great underlying work, impressively detailed and organized posting job, but a few more details would have mad this all even more usable and user-friendly, imho.

1st.
as far as I can see, you posted no official time limit for the votes

2nd.
You didn't make clear whether one had to post in the OT thread fr the votes to be read and valid (i.e. do you also keep reading here?), and in case you failed to provide a helping *direct* link, instead of letting the voter wannabe slug there on his own clicks.
For all it's worth, I'll post here anyway. I think I never posted in OT, and if I ever did, I certainly don't want to now. Especially since when it's moderated by MtG

____
Besides, I only care for AC (with the occasional incursion in MoO and MoM forums), and my votes will of course be for the few AC old-timers who I still see posting here from time to time, so it would have little point to post them in OT.

Which brings me to
3rd.
wouldn't it be interesting to have SECTIONS in the HoF?
That is, like the big sections you see in the main Forums listing, AC, CIV2, CIVIII, etc.. "sub"-HoFs??? Just a thought. Most of the names I see in the HoF mean nothing to me, and I'm here since spring '99...

Anyway.
VOTES

Sikander
Ogie Oglethorpe
Tau Ceti

Had I a 4th vote, I could have given it to Paul, but mostly for his Counterglow activity rather than his here

For the same reason I didn't mention Mongoose, for me he'd be in the SMAC-players HoF, and I'd not restrain him merely to the limited scope of a single site Hof

.

Also, I did not consider many famous AC apolytners of the past, who either are in the HoF already, or don't post here since long, even if their defining contribution to the flavor of Apolyton AC forums was as great.
What sense could have to induce NOW in the HF zsozso, or Helium Pond, for instance. Or Misotu herself?
Well, after all, it *could* have sense, but I gave precedence anyway to those who were active and STILL ARE too.

And anyway, despite you cited the name of some very eclectic Aplytoners like Vel, it is VERY UNLIKELY that a poster limited to an On-Topic forum would have the visibility to let him rake eneough votes from the undistinguished OTters mass....
{although, if 10 old-time AC-dwellers (or a few more of those whose vote weighs less) here gather their efforts and make their preferences converge on one of the above....}

One final fun remark:
there are in the HoF some posters who subsequently PERMA-BANNED????

ROTFL, what a shame... what a FARCE!

After all, I myself posted this post only because I was bored on a Sunday morning, for all I care...

**spartak** · December 15, 2002, 07:25

Since MariOne asks so nicely, I'll go with his recommendations for votes

Sikander
Ogie Oglethorpe
Tau Ceti

**Method** · December 15, 2002, 12:11

Blake
Ogie
Ixnay

**DarkCloud** · December 15, 2002, 22:54

MariOne-

Thank you for voting!

Time Limit for voting is usually 3-4 days; usually whenever I notice that voting is petering out.

You didn't make clear whether one had to post in the OT thread fr the votes to be read and valid (i.e. do you also keep reading here?), and in case you failed to provide a helping *direct* link, instead of letting the voter wannabe slug there on his own clicks.
For all it's worth, I'll post here anyway. I think I never posted in OT, and if I ever did, I certainly don't want to now. Especially since when it's moderated by MtG

Don’t worry voting works here and I update here; although next time I think I’ll make a direct link where all the votes are updated and merely post the rules and hall members in the satellite threads- the reason I posted everything this time was that I wanted everyone to get used to the Hall of Fame and know what it was about so that it’s thread didn’t sink deep into the pile of threads before the voting was over.

I’ll have to think on the section idea.

What sense could have to induce NOW in the HF zsozso, or Helium Pond, for instance. Or Misotu herself?
Well, after all, it *could* have sense, but I gave precedence anyway to those who were active and STILL ARE too

Yes, that’s what most people do- personally I like to vote for the older people; therefore I voted for Korn of the List for Civ III, empress for her civ II work and Shadowstrike for his Civ III ideas and OT presence… All of which; except for Korn who posts infrequently, are long gone from apolyton.

One final fun remark:
there are in the HoF some posters who subsequently PERMA-BANNED????

ROTFL, what a shame... what a FARCE!

Not really; Yo_Yo_Yo Hey and Stewart Spink were great contribuiters to the site before Gamestats forced MarkG and DanQ to permaban them; and Spink has since returned in the form of Dookie- and although he is now only OT; used to be quite big on the on topic.

As for EVC; he’s in there for his personality; micronationalism and OT… He was one of the largest and most important posters for the years 1999-2001. He was only permabanned because he stupidly gave out the password to his account so that anyone could use it.

**Method** · December 16, 2002, 19:09

DC, can i change my vote? make:

ixnay->Ali Cove

**spartak** · December 16, 2002, 20:05

Ali who?

**Method** · December 16, 2002, 21:58

alinestra covelia (is that it? spelled right, i mean)

**DarkCloud** · December 16, 2002, 23:23

Updated.

I fixed the correction...

**Ogie Oglethorpe** · December 16, 2002, 23:46

Put me down for:

Mario
JimmyTrick
Slowwhand

**Sikander** · December 17, 2002, 13:08

My (SMAC) votes:

Ogie Oglethorpe
MariOne
Tau Ceti

**FNBrown** · December 17, 2002, 15:09

Why is this thread only in this forum?

Oh, and the FAQ does a nice job of dodging the obvious over-representation of OT posters on the HOF...

**gwillybj** · December 17, 2002, 16:53

I can pick only 3?

In that case, I'll nominate 3 that have greatly influenced how and why I play SMAC in more ways than I can count. They are in no particular order:

MariOne
Alinestra Covelia
Ogie Oglethorpe

I could list another dozen or more. Thank you, all.

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