Sunspots and Attrocities

[SerapisIV]

Originally posted by Blake
As I understand it Thought Control causes neither an integrity or relations hit. Then again I can recall TC'ing a hive base and a few turns later Yang declaring war, but I wouldn't be TC'ing his bases if our relations were good, so co-incidence is quite possible.

What I believe Thought Control does is make it appear that a revolt happened.

Even under a total mind control, the AI still percieves the base as captured, even if it doesn't complain diplomatically. I tested it out by thought controlling an AI civ, and then turned on the scenario editor. The AI immediately had several units sent on Goto commands through my territory (ingoring my borders and several bases in between) into the mind controlled base.

[SerapisIV]

What is the connection between sunspots and atrocities, what atrocities can you get away with during sunspot activites? Or does it just come and bite you later after the suspots stop?

[Ned]

All. Ned

[Ned]

At least nerve stapling. However, I am not sure one gets a free ride with a Planet Buster. Ned

[Horus]

Planet Busting is not easily forgiven, even if the faction leaders can't chat on their comlinks. I've tried to do it with an innocent look on my face afterwards. Lal looked as grim as he usually does after a PB.

[johndmuller]

What kind of information do human players get along these lines in MP? Vendettas don't happen automatically, do they? When one human player commits an atrocity against another, say the nerve stapling of captured base citizens, is there notification?

If there is info passed to a human when another human atrocitizes them, does that also occur during or right after sunspots? I gather from the postings here that the AI is aparently cogniscent that an atrocity occurred to them under sunspots. Obviously, some things will be obvious to a human player to, like when his base is mind controlled (unless the mind control is real and not just part of the game); IIRC, when the AI does a mind control on one of your bases, there is a message to that effect in SP at least, presumably in MP as well, but one does get less of that sort of info in MP; what if it were the Total Mind Control variant, would the program omit the message? Should an ethical game player accept that the base has always belonged to the new owner? Are there messages or warnings or automatic vendettas when it it human to human?