Scenario Editor

[si2themax]

Hi there!

Im having problems creating a map with SMAC! Everytime i create the map in scenario editor to its completion after my first turn the entire map turns to ocean squares except for a few squares that are about 10m above sea level!

Does anyone know how i can solve this problem and keep my map? The sea level wont stop rising uncontrollably!

[binTravkin]

There you are!
Welcome our newest member!
Maybe look at your alpha.txt file - there's a string:
1, 1 ;nominator and denominator for global warming

If its correct (1, 1), then place 0, 1 instead and you'll get 0/1=0 global warming and thus no sea rising!
If its not correct, correct it!

And if still having problems, download alternate smac/x version from http://smac.2be.cc

[si2themax]

i checked my alpha.txt and the only thing i could find for global warming was a lattitude divisor which was at 8,

is this what i need to change? what will i change it to?

[GeoModder]

1, 1 ; Numerator/Denominator for frequency of global warming (1,2 would be "half" normal warming).

This is the line you should looking for. It is the 5th last line of the #RULES section in alpha.txt

[si2themax]

thats not in my alpha.txt

here's mine

#RULES
3, ; Movement rate along roads
2, ; Nutrient intake requirement for citizens
3,2 ; Numerator & Denominator for artillery fire damage
2, ; Max artillery range (larger will break multiplayer)
8, ; Max airdrop range w/o orbital insertion
10, ; Nutrient cost multiplier

nothin in rules bout it, i found global warming in worldbuilder below rules and resources.

[GeoModder]

I said the 5th last line, si2themax.

[si2themax]

oh! lol, sorry

emmm, in that case heres mine

EcoEng, ; Technology to allow 3 minerals in a square
EnvEcon, ; Technology to allow 3 energy in a square
Gravity, ; Technology to allow orbital insertion w/o Space Elevator
EcoEng2, ; Technology for +1 mining platform bonus
PlaEcon, ; Technology for economic victory

thats my last 5 lines in rules

i cant find nethin in there bout num/denominators cept artillery fire!

[GeoModder]

#RULES
3, ; Movement rate along roads
2, ; Nutrient intake requirement for citizens
3,2 ; Numerator & Denominator for artillery fire damage
2, ; Max artillery range (larger will break multiplayer)
8, ; Max airdrop range w/o orbital insertion
10, ; Nutrient cost multiplier
10, ; Minerals cost multiplier
100, ; Technology discovery rate as a percentage of standard
1, ; Limits mineral increase for mine without road in square
-1, ; Nutrient effect in mine square (0 or -1)
5, ; Minimum base size to support specialists
1, ; Drones induced by Genejack factory
7, ; Population limit w/o hab complex
14, ; Population limit w/o hab dome
50, ; Extra percentage cost of prototype LAND unit
50, ; Extra percentage cost of prototype SEA unit
50, ; Extra percentage cost of prototype AIR unit
3,2, ; Psi combat offense-to-defense ratio (LAND unit defending)
1,1, ; Psi combat offense-to-defense ratio (SEA unit defending)
1,1, ; Psi combat offense-to-defense ratio (AIR unit defending)
10, ; Players' starting energy reserves
25, ; Combat % -> intrinsic base defense
0, ; Combat % -> attacking along road
0, ; Combat % -> for attacking from higher elevation
0, ; Combat penalty % -> attacking from lower elevation
25, ; Combat % -> Mobile unit in open ground
0, ; Combat % -> Defend vs. mobile in rough
25, ; Combat % -> Infantry vs. Base
50, ; Combat penalty % -> attack after airdrop
25, ; Combat % -> Fanatic attack bonus
50, ; Combat % -> Land based guns vs. ship artillery bonus
25, ; Combat % -> Artillery bonus per level of altitude
50, ; Combat % -> Trance bonus defending vs. psi
50, ; Combat % -> Empath Song bonus attacking vs. psi
50, ; Combat penalty % -> Air superiority unit vs. ground unit
100, ; Combat % -> Air superiority unit vs. air unit
50, ; Combat penalty % -> Non-combat unit defending vs. combat unit
50, ; Combat % -> Comm Jammer unit defending vs. mobile unit
100, ; Combat % -> Bonus vs. ships caught in port
100, ; Combat % -> AAA bonus vs. air units
25, ; Combat % -> Defend in range of friendly Sensor
10, ; Combat % -> Psi attack bonus/penalty per +PLANET
50, ; Retool percent penalty for production change
2, ; Retool strictness (0 = Always Free, 1 = Free in Category, 2 = Free if Project, 3 = Never Free)
10, ; Retool exemption (first X minerals not affected by penalty)
20, ; Minimum # of turns between councils
5, ; Minerals for harvesting forest
8, ; Territory: max distance from base
20, ; Turns to corner Global Energy Market
CentPsi, ; Technology to improve fungus squares
CentPsi, ; Technology to ease fungus movement
CentEmp, ; Technology to build roads in fungus
Neural, ; Technology to allow 2 special abilities for a unit
Gene, ; Technology to allow 3 nutrients in a square
EcoEng, ; Technology to allow 3 minerals in a square
EnvEcon, ; Technology to allow 3 energy in a square
Gravity, ; Technology to allow orbital insertion w/o Space Elevator
EcoEng2, ; Technology for +1 mining platform bonus
PlaEcon, ; Technology for economic victory
1, ; If non-zero, probe teams can steal technologies
1, ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in net games
1, ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in hotseat/email games
50, ; Maximum % damage inflicted by arty versus units in base/bunker
99, ; Maximum % damage inflicted by arty versus units in open
100, ; Maximum % damage inflicted by arty versus units at sea
1, 1 ; Numerator/Denominator for frequency of global warming (1,2 would be "half" normal warming).
2100 ; Normal starting year
2600 ; Normal ending year for lowest 3 difficulty levels
2500 ; Normal ending year for highest 3 difficulty levels
1 ; If non-zero, obliterating a base counts as an atrocity

This is the whole #RULES section of my alpha.txt file.
Looks like your alpha.txt is messed up by whatever reason.

Perhaps copying this block in your file helps solving the problem.

[si2themax]

right, after all this im guessing its not actually global warming that is my problem, considering the game doesnt actually say global warming has occured, it was just the only thing i could think of, does the sea level thing mean no tidal waves too?

whats happened in full, i created a map, put down factions set out to where i would start them, places landmarks etc, and before i even turn off the editor to begin the game the entire map just turns to ocean except garland crater,pholus ridge and mount planet when i choose any other editing choice, ie world parameters etc

p.s this only happened after i had saved the map and game.

[GeoModder]

Choosing world parameters after working on the map restarts a worldcreation.

I suggest you save a map/scenario first, and start it as a scenario game afterwards, not start to play just after placing all stuff.

[si2themax]

thanks


why did some of my landmarks and a mine i put down stay when the ocean covered the rest?

[GeoModder]

It's a bug in the editor. Simply restart from nil if you placed those.
Even if you 'drown' and remove those landmarks, their benefits (extra energy/minerals) will stay.

[Enigma_Nova]

The nearest thing I can remember,
is that the first river placed on a loaded map causes the terrain to drop by 1000m
Solution - make a map in the editor, save it, open it and re-edit it.

As for anything else, I can't be sure.
That's all I can say for now.