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    Isn't it nice to remove all of the negative effects of the future society options? Apperantly the future societies are a result of improved technology which was discovered by humans. That indicates that humans should desing and adapt it advantageous towards the society. Like when an engineer designs a car. He would try to find a special case that optimizes the benefits and minimizes the flaws.

  • #2
    Future Social enginerings are alredy ver nice, they each have 3 areas of Bosting and only 1 penalty vs 2:1 for all earlier game Socials (and less for FM). Their quite good already and I think the negatives are logical, fair and help to solidify your play style in the End game. Only think I would switch is the Planet rating over to Eudiamonic.

    Also by aplying a -1 Growth to None Future you can make Pop Booming impossible without a Golden Age for all factions pre Future Society which I think is a good idea.
    Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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    • #3
      It would also mean that running green would be useless as it'd cease growth altogether.
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      • #4
        Unless you also ran Democracy...

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        • #5
          Actualy (and not suprisingly) the -3 Growth causing zero population growth is incorrect, it just gives you more Nuts per row, try it out and you will see.
          Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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          • #6
            But bases still don't grow, so the effect is the same.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
              Future Social enginerings are alredy ver nice, they each have 3 areas of Bosting and only 1 penalty vs 2:1 for all earlier game Socials (and less for FM). Their quite good already and I think the negatives are logical, fair and help to solidify your play style in the End game. Only think I would switch is the Planet rating over to Eudiamonic.
              Also, you can remove the negative modifiers for two of the three Future Society choices by building Secret Projects (The Cloning Vats: removes negatives from Thought Control (and 'Power' Values); The Network Backbone: removes negatives from Cybernetic); only poor old Eudaimonic can't lose its negative modifiers (although I am thinking that I might give the Free Drones IMPUGNITY EUDAIMONIC, to represent their "revolutionary zeal" ).
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              • #8
                Maybe Telepathic Matrix should have removed the negative effects of Eudamonic.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Patashu
                  Maybe Telepathic Matrix should have removed the negative effects of Eudamonic.
                  Not a bad idea. I'm happy to have the Free Drones as my only "vigorous" Eudaimonists though.
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                  • #10
                    I wonder is there any way to allow other techs to remove bad effects of SE choices? It seems to me too bad that only one faction can get the impunity model for the Future SE types.
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                    • #11
                      IMO Eudaimonia with +2 Eco and +2 Ind is overpowered even when it has -2 Morale and the other Future choices have no penalty, so I'm not mourning there's no SP to remove Eudai's penalty.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Maniac
                        IMO Eudaimonia with +2 Eco and +2 Ind is overpowered even when it has -2 Morale and the other Future choices have no penalty, so I'm not mourning there's no SP to remove Eudai's penalty.
                        You may have a point there... my main impetus for giving the Free Drones impugnity is that in the scenario I am fiddling with they are running Fundamentalist Politics (to represent a "faithlike" commitment to revolutionary socialism).
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                        • #13
                          That's why you should always run Police State/Planned/Power/Thought Control.

                          No negatives at all!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Frankychan
                            That's why you should always run Police State/Planned/Power/Thought Control.

                            No negatives at all!

                            "Teach those Drones a lesson!"
                            The Human Hive is the principle antagonist of the Free Drones in this scenario... you have read the timeline, right?
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                            • #15
                              Of course! But I was just subtly trying to hint that the Drones should just give up their fight and join the Human Hive...or at least run Human Hive policies.
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