Strongest factions?

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Commy
Yang is insane, not socialism.

He's just an ultra-statist, which can be remarkable 'socialist', but is just not socialist in a Marxist way. People who have beliefs that are extremely different from the beliefs we possess often seem insane. I'd argue that Yang himself would consider not radically changing the structure of society to be insane.

[Commy]

Whoever's directly above this post (sorry, I don't know how to quote), you're probably right. Yang probably sees liberals as complete idiots. All he wanted was a perfect society, I just don't understand how holing up in the ground to muffle the cries of tortured citizens is going to create "Utopia".

[Mart]

Commy, each post has two links in its upper part:

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Click "quote" over there

[Commy]

Originally posted by mart7x5
Commy, each post has two links in its upper part:

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Click "quote" over there

Thanks man

[Alinestra Covelia]

Regardless, he still runs a mean faction. Hard to fight in the early turns of the game, and a good powerhouse build/conquer mix.

My kind of faction!

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Regardless, he still runs a mean faction. Hard to fight in the early turns of the game, and a good powerhouse build/conquer mix.

My kind of faction!

Police State Politics / Planned Economics / Power Values with the Human Hive is horrible! I don't know how people who aren't the Hive run Police State Politics / Planned Economics... I guess they don't...

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Commy
Whoever's directly above this post (sorry, I don't know how to quote), you're probably right. Yang probably sees liberals as complete idiots. All he wanted was a perfect society, I just don't understand how holing up in the ground to muffle the cries of tortured citizens is going to create "Utopia".

I'm still not convinced that the Hive tortures more than any other faction. Certainly they use physical punishment (Punishment Spheres even?), but they also encourage overcoming physical stimuli (The Ascetic Virtues?). In the AC fiction there are Spartan's murdering "unsuitable" children and the University's use of genetically modified servile classes ("genejacking"). I don't think Yang's Hive are a pack of carebears, but I also don't think he is the sole monster on Chiron.

[Commy]

Originally posted by Trithemius


I'm still not convinced that the Hive tortures more than any other faction. Certainly they use physical punishment (Punishment Spheres even?), but they also encourage overcoming physical stimuli (The Ascetic Virtues?). In the AC fiction there are Spartan's murdering "unsuitable" children and the University's use of genetically modified servile classes ("genejacking"). I don't think Yang's Hive are a pack of carebears, but I also don't think he is the sole monster on Chiron.

To support this claim, look at faction advantages and disadvantages. The university is the only faction to get extra drones, not the Hive, which means, Zakhorav has come down lower than Yang's level of morality. How sad. For a long time I thought he was a great guy. You know, I can't think of one leader that isn't totally fanatic and insane about there idealogies.

[Barinthus]

Zakhorav see nothing wrong with just pulling his civilians off the street and drag them off to be experimented upon. Of course the populace is terrified of him.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Commy
You know, I can't think of one leader that isn't totally fanatic and insane about there idealogies.

I think that you are correct about this, and that it was totally deliberate on the part of the designers.

Even Pravin Lal is an absolute fanatic about his ideology, it is just that people who are fanatical about humane ethics don't seem as offensive to us as people who are fanatical about other things.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Trithemius


and the University's use of genetically modified servile classes ("genejacking").

Yang: My gift to industry is the genetically engineered drone or genejack

[Sikander]

My gift to (the porn) industry is the genetically engineered Wang.

Lady Deidre Thigh

[Illuminatus]

[Commy]

Originally posted by Sikander
My gift to (the porn) industry is the genetically engineered Wang.

Lady Deidre Thigh

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