Land transport/air probe

[Mart]

Transport "ability" subtracts one movement point from chasis. Thus Transport Speeder has only 1 movement point. We cannot have then APC on speeder chasis fast like 2 units per turn then. Is there any remedy for that? Do we need hoovertank to make better speeds with infantry transports?

I seem to be unsuccesful in creating air probe needlejet. No U2 in SMAX?

[Patashu]

Hmm...could you make a hovertank transport custom unit in the alpha.txt file and set it's requirement to Docterine: Mobility?

[Mart]

That is a possibility. But how about "old-style" troop transporter on wheels, which would be faster than marching soldiers? this is what i miss here

[Skanky Burns]

An elite-level transport will have 2 movement points.

[anarchie]

An infantry or a speeder transport?

[johndmuller]

Presumably Skanky means an elite speeder transport (although it is a bit difficult to get one to be elite, as they don't get monolith upgrades and I t don'tthink that they can be given the 'trained' attribute).

Aircraft probes can be made with a little judicious messing around with the Alpha(x).txt file. IIRC, there were some strange rules in using them, like your a/c probe needed to start its turn in a sea tile to be able to probe a sea base (and land for land). Aircraft probes seem way too powerful, but perhaps if they were available, we would develop a standard strategy to counter them (like lots of probe defenders and interceptors - if they work against probeplanes, or maybe probeinterceptorplanes if you had NG). It probably doesn't hurt to give the AI some probeplanes though (and you don't have to enable human-player use of them to be able to predesign some probe aircraft with the appropriate stuff enabled right in their unit definition to give to the AI players.

[GeoModder]

You can always make a custom made rover transport with the grav stuts ability flagged, and put it in the basic units list. That gives you 2 moves for sure then.

[Sikander]

In order to get more movement from my land transports I have built them as prototypes for all of my new armor types. With all of the boni for facilities they just squeek into the elite category. As they have no weapon they can't be trained, nor can they upgrade at a monolith.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by johndmuller
Presumably Skanky means an elite speeder transport (although it is a bit difficult to get one to be elite, as they don't get monolith upgrades and I t don'tthink that they can be given the 'trained' attribute).

Infantry chassis elite transports yield two movement point.

Speeder chassis elite transports similarly yield two movement points.

There is no good compelling reason to put a transport onto a speeder chassis as all it does is add cost with no discernible performance difference. (Although I do wonder if a speeder chassis elite transport would retreat in the open)

The points regarding upgrade are important to note just as Sik et. al. suggestions to proto new armors to get the elite rating. In the late midgame, Santi should be producing elites in bases with command centers and bioenhancement centers. Like wise other factions can achieve the same by running Fundy/?/Knowledge or simply ?/?/power assuming they are not Gaians with a morale penalty.

[Dansz]

Do prototypes get a morale boost then?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Yep. 1 morale level boost.

[Commy]

Didn't know transports got movement penalties. Really, though, why make a speeder transport?

[GeoModder]

To move infantry units directly to the gates of an enemy base so it's movement is not lost in that same turn. And if you have a transport with two movements (elite or grav struts, whatever) it can come as a complete surprise from outside the base view.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Commy
Didn't know transports got movement penalties. Really, though, why make a speeder transport?

There is no reason whatever to build a speeder transport. They will have the same movement as an infantry based equivalent in all circumstances.

[Mart]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
An elite-level transport will have 2 movement points.

Skanky, I tried to make an elite transport in scenario editor and it defaulted always to Commando. I was never able to see those 2 movement poits. How to do it? How to boost morale of a transport unit? let mindworms bite it ???