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[Method]

but "paradigm economy" is much looser term than "-50%". "Paradigm Economy" could mean a number of things whereas "+30% industry" for example could only mean one thing. Besides...AFAIK, efficiency is the only rating that has any effect over what's stated in the datalinks, except one's planet rating and psi combat.

[Dis]

at least in my last game, my research rate was the same as or better using wealth than knowlege. I'm not sure why that was. I'm not a heavy number cruncher, I just choose which is best.

[gwillybj]

Fundamentalist Green Knowledge Eudaimonic.
I don't recall using this mix in a game, though, as I'm not sure it fits with any of the stock factions.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Method
but "paradigm economy" is much looser term than "-50%". "Paradigm Economy" could mean a number of things whereas "+30% industry" for example could only mean one thing. Besides...AFAIK, efficiency is the only rating that has any effect over what's stated in the datalinks, except one's planet rating and psi combat.

Is there a way of forcing the program to accept higher SE effect ratings? I was thinking that you could get a -8 POLICE rating with the Data Angels, if you were trying, and a +8 or so EFFICIENCY with the Cybernetic Consciousness. It seems a bit unfair that extreme modifiers don't seem to have much of an effect.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Method
but "paradigm economy" is much looser term than "-50%". "Paradigm Economy" could mean a number of things whereas "+30% industry" for example could only mean one thing. Besides...AFAIK, efficiency is the only rating that has any effect over what's stated in the datalinks, except one's planet rating and psi combat.

Paradigm economy in game terms means that you can set your energy allocations anyway you like without losing any. Efficiency is used as a variable in at least two calculations, for energy loss and for bureacracy drones. AS you state the higher it is the better for these calculations.

[Method]

Originally posted by Trithemius if you were trying...a +8 or so EFFICIENCY with the Cybernetic Consciousness. It seems a bit unfair that extreme modifiers don't seem to have much of an effect.

+11, with democracy, green, knowledge, cybernetic and creches. But even though you _can_...why would you _want_ to? It's not really unfair - just pick another setting.

[Commy]

Sorry, Method, but I only calculate +9 efficiency.

[Jamski]

I get +11.

CyCon +2
Demo +2
Green +2
Knowledge +1
Cybernectic +2
Creche +2
_______
Total +11
_______

-Jam

[livid imp]

Ok so we know what max numbers can be had. But are we all still speculating on their effects, or has anyone did any tests to prove it?

Specifically does a -4 probe or a 5+ efficency have effects beyond what is stated in the SE screen?

[Method]

Spamski has it

and AFAIK, the only ones that have effects that go beyond what is stated are efficiency, and planet (your psi combat bonus)

[Chaos Theory]

Well, and probe. Everyone loves the +4 probe bug...

[GeoModder]

+4 probe bug? First time I hear of it. Is your probe rating eliminated when you reach +4 or what?

[Skanky Burns]

/me hasn't heard of it either.

[Patashu]

When you reach +4 probe rating, it rolls over to...um...0 I think, or some negative number. This is a problem with the Datajacks, as you get +2 probe and free covert ops centers after Pre-Sentient Algorithms, FORCING you to run Knowledge.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Patashu
When you reach +4 probe rating, it rolls over to...um...0 I think, or some negative number. This is a problem with the Datajacks, as you get +2 probe and free covert ops centers after Pre-Sentient Algorithms, FORCING you to run Knowledge.

Ick!