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HELP!! The Chiron Bermuda Triangle
Hello!
It's me, with another strange question that people will probably misunderstand as my own incompetence despite all my sincerity and evidence to the contrary. Oh, well, it's worth a shot since it's been giving me nothing but a pain in the a$$. And besides, what are all you experts and veterans out there good for if you can't help poor pitiful me sort through the quandaries that are plaguing my need for closure
Anyway, here's the deal:
I mind-control a peacekeeper base with 7 (seven) needlejets, three missile and four resonance laser. Forthwith I use the captured needlejets to attack a nearby peacekeeper base. The turn ends with six of the seven needljets in the air, but it is the first movement turn for all of them (I AM SURE OF THIS! HE**, I CAPTURED THE BASE ON THAT TURN!), so they should all return to base anyway. Incidentally, on the F6 screen (the units list) i now have all of ONE needlejet of each new type listed, even though, right there in front of my quizzical little nose, are three of one type and four of the other. I did not have any missile or resonance jets before the capture.
Well, I pass this off as just another one of those small F-screen glitches but I cannot do the same when, after the turn ends and the next begins, I find that three of my needlejets are just plain GONE! Vanished! I have all animations enabled but I saw no out-of-fuel crashing or battles, and I even ran the editor with omniscient to verify that none of the planes were attacked (even though there are no enemy planes visible). They weren't. None of the planes were out of fuel, since I also verified by going back a turn that as soon as I had captured the base, all the planes had 24/24 fuel.
Furthermore, the supporting base had exactly enough minerals to support all seven of the planes. Yes, a rushed probe team was produced the next turn, but I don't believe that is relevant.
What is really non-kosher is that only three of the planes in the stack vanished, leaving the other three intact. Two missile and one resonance, if I recall.
Anyway, for all you doubters of genuine Karu-san-variety phenomenon, I made a save of the game at the end of the turn before the jets vanish, so if anyone really thinks I'm just pulling this out of me arse, there it is, right there on the save (inform a computer illiterate if there's a better way send it besides email or putting it on a home page). I've already used two separate computers to verify the disappearance. The gauntlet lies thrown to anyone who can explain this occurence.
And yes, despite the bombast, I would love it someone deflated me by pointing out the ever-present, altogether ridiculously obvious solution. However, as my save will verify, all of the above observations are true to the best of my empirical abilities.
Edit: It has occurred to me that perhaps people just wrinkle their noses at such oddities and move on, rather than try to explain them (even if it involves the loss of three lovely little needlejets at time when my army is, well, spartan). While this might be the case, I still ask you to suffer this post on the chance that someone can clear this up. Thanks!
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by karu-san (edited February 27, 2001).]</font>
It's me, with another strange question that people will probably misunderstand as my own incompetence despite all my sincerity and evidence to the contrary. Oh, well, it's worth a shot since it's been giving me nothing but a pain in the a$$. And besides, what are all you experts and veterans out there good for if you can't help poor pitiful me sort through the quandaries that are plaguing my need for closure
Anyway, here's the deal:
I mind-control a peacekeeper base with 7 (seven) needlejets, three missile and four resonance laser. Forthwith I use the captured needlejets to attack a nearby peacekeeper base. The turn ends with six of the seven needljets in the air, but it is the first movement turn for all of them (I AM SURE OF THIS! HE**, I CAPTURED THE BASE ON THAT TURN!), so they should all return to base anyway. Incidentally, on the F6 screen (the units list) i now have all of ONE needlejet of each new type listed, even though, right there in front of my quizzical little nose, are three of one type and four of the other. I did not have any missile or resonance jets before the capture.
Well, I pass this off as just another one of those small F-screen glitches but I cannot do the same when, after the turn ends and the next begins, I find that three of my needlejets are just plain GONE! Vanished! I have all animations enabled but I saw no out-of-fuel crashing or battles, and I even ran the editor with omniscient to verify that none of the planes were attacked (even though there are no enemy planes visible). They weren't. None of the planes were out of fuel, since I also verified by going back a turn that as soon as I had captured the base, all the planes had 24/24 fuel.
Furthermore, the supporting base had exactly enough minerals to support all seven of the planes. Yes, a rushed probe team was produced the next turn, but I don't believe that is relevant.
What is really non-kosher is that only three of the planes in the stack vanished, leaving the other three intact. Two missile and one resonance, if I recall.
Anyway, for all you doubters of genuine Karu-san-variety phenomenon, I made a save of the game at the end of the turn before the jets vanish, so if anyone really thinks I'm just pulling this out of me arse, there it is, right there on the save (inform a computer illiterate if there's a better way send it besides email or putting it on a home page). I've already used two separate computers to verify the disappearance. The gauntlet lies thrown to anyone who can explain this occurence.
And yes, despite the bombast, I would love it someone deflated me by pointing out the ever-present, altogether ridiculously obvious solution. However, as my save will verify, all of the above observations are true to the best of my empirical abilities.
Edit: It has occurred to me that perhaps people just wrinkle their noses at such oddities and move on, rather than try to explain them (even if it involves the loss of three lovely little needlejets at time when my army is, well, spartan). While this might be the case, I still ask you to suffer this post on the chance that someone can clear this up. Thanks!
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by karu-san (edited February 27, 2001).]</font>
My best *guess* here is that it has to be a bug in the game itself. Other than that, I have no idea.
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