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  • #16
    Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


    How?
    There's a line in the alpha(x).txt file:

    0, ; Nutrient effect in mine square (0 or -1)

    When its 0, you don't get the reduction.

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    • #17
      Renaissoxx, if you are new to SMAC there's an assumption these guys didn't tell you. Almost all of us who play single player will do anything short of cheating to get the Weather Paradigm. You see, it lets you build condensors early, which lets you bypass the early nutrient restrictions. Nice trick, it really helps your early game.

      Plus alot of the people here use crawlers. I have to admit I didn't use them effectively until I found this site. With crawlers on a flat moist square that has had a farm and condensor built, you can take four nutrients back to your base. If you plan to use a specialist on the square, use a rolling square so you get an extra mineral.

      There are various early and mid game strategies on how to terraform. Go through the last year of threads here, you'll find some very nice discussions on it.
      The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
      And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
      Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
      Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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      • #18
        Or you can save yourself some time and read Ogie's definitive terraforming overview:

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        • #19
          It's a nice overview, but it doesn't deal with the combined issue of base spacing, i.e. Sikander's versus whatever your typical Gaian optimal spread is. Plus you have Hive spacing, and some of the interesting ideas being tested on that. It's why I suggested he go through the forums, both here and on Civnet. He'll get alot of fine points that he would miss otherwise. Ogies overview is excellent, but just that, an overview. Renaissoxx evidently has some turn-based strategy experience, so I'll bet he would enjoy the fine points.
          The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
          And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
          Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
          Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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          • #20
            Ogie's is good from a mathematical perspective, but really, the AI is so shocking that you can beat the AI with any of the terraformings. My most favourite is probably pure forest with a smattering of boreholes. Once everything is forested I turn to raise land and expand my continent and build more bases until I'm happy. It looks good and clean, and with lots of infrastructure the AI doesn't stand a chance.

            ... If you plan to use a specialist on the square, use a rolling square so you get an extra mineral.
            Said like a true crawler addict. Or "The worked square is a wasted specialist".

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